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Israel/Palestine

aranthus

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3. So what?

Reply to Mosby (Original post)

Thu Sep 22, 2016, 03:51 PM

Sep 2016

International law isn't law. It doesn't have the moral backing that law has. So there is a big difference between being "legal" under international law and being rightful. The reverse is true as well. Even if the Israeli settlements were "illegal" under international law, that wouldn't make them wrongful. So shouldn't Israel and her supporters deal with the ultimate question up front? Does Israel have the right to do with the territories what it wants, without including the current occupants in any way? Does it have the right to annex the territory without making the Palestinians citizens of Israel or giving them a say? I don't think so.

In a way what Israel is doing is similar to what the Palestinians want to do with right of return. They are changing the demographics of the territory against the wishes of the people already living there.

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Mr. President: The Israeli settlements are legal [View all] Mosby Sep 2016 OP

+1 And, cue a variation of the popular song: "Send in the haters, they're here." nt jonno99 Sep 2016 #1

Well articulated & correct. Of course, enemies of the Jews would argue otherwise.... shira Sep 2016 #2

So what? aranthus Sep 2016 #3

The problem with your argument Mosby Sep 2016 #4

History should inform the present, not control it. aranthus Sep 2016 #5

The author of the OP hasn't read the relevant part of the Geneva convention about an occupier Little Tich Sep 2016 #6

Since Geneva IV doesn't apply to other occupations/settlements globally... shira Sep 2016 #7

Wow, that's a pretty big bag of pick'n mix of different situations... Little Tich Sep 2016 #8

Nah - they're all occupations, all population transfers, "settlers". Enough denial. shira Sep 2016 #9

Too much of a leap of faith, I'm afraid - I still think that you should be able to actually prove Little Tich Sep 2016 #12

It's more proof than any of the idiotic anti-Israel narratives... shira Sep 2016 #14

Enjoy your apartheid state while you have it. geek tragedy Sep 2016 #10

Every citizen of Israel has the same rights regardless of race, religion, or ethnicity oberliner Sep 2016 #19

Liberal democracies don't practice apartheid geek tragedy Sep 2016 #20

Right, and neither does Israel - even in the W.Bank. Give it up. n/t shira Sep 2016 #21

Yes it does shira .... Israeli Sep 2016 #23

"Jewish Only Roads" is a lie, so why keep posting this shit? n/t shira Sep 2016 #25

2008 shira ..... Israeli Sep 2016 #24

Hmmm....a road Israelis use that Palestinians cannot is not Apartheid. shira Sep 2016 #26

Agreed oberliner Sep 2016 #28

To me Israel has a few choices sabbat hunter Sep 2016 #11

The problem is Israel negotiating with a Palestinian leadership... shira Sep 2016 #15

What is your solution sabbat hunter Sep 2016 #27

There's always something that can be done; not that it will result in peace. shira Sep 2016 #29

If they don't negotiate with sabbat hunter Sep 2016 #30

Right, it's basically hopeless. n/t shira Sep 2016 #32

Oded Ravivi ???? !!!!!........ Israeli Sep 2016 #13

The author could be Uri Avnery. Facts are facts. n/t shira Sep 2016 #16

Come on ....now you are being extremely silly shira ..... Israeli Sep 2016 #17

I don't think you got the point. I know Avnery didn't write that.... shira Sep 2016 #18

LOL ..... Israeli Sep 2016 #22

Why should any part sabbat hunter Sep 2016 #31