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Israel/Palestine

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Mosby

(17,647 posts)
Thu Sep 22, 2016, 12:38 PM Sep 2016

Mr. President: The Israeli settlements are legal [View all]

From US President Barack Obama to Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, state leaders at the United Nations General Assembly aren’t missing an opportunity to condemn the Israeli communities in Judea and Samaria, or what they call “illegal Israeli settlements.” However, the term “illegal Israeli settlements” is outdated, incorrect and irrelevant.

Since Israel liberated Judea and Samaria (commonly termed the West Bank) half a century ago, the international community hasn’t missed an opportunity to condemn her presence there, but that doesn’t make it illegal. Israel was forced into a war of survival and captured its historical highlands, which were legally ownerless at the time. The land wasn’t taken from another nation that had legal rights to it. In fact, no other nation on earth has more right to Judea than the people of Judah, aka the Jews.

Over half a million Israelis currently live in Judea, Samaria and eastern Jerusalem. This is an irreversible fact. No Israeli government could feasibly ethnically cleanse hundreds of thousands of men, women and children from their homes, schools and businesses. These are not makeshift forts as the word “settlement” indicates, rather they are established towns and cities with shopping malls, high-rise buildings, factories and a large university.

The main legal argument used against Israel’s presence in Judea and Samaria is that it violates the Fourth Geneva Convention, which states that an occupying power may not forcefully transfer a population into occupied territory. This was a provision written in the shadow of World War II and the Holocaust, intended to protect innocent civilians from extermination, slave labor or colonization during time of war. The Six Day War ended five decades ago, and the Jordanians have subsequently waived all rights to the land – which they didn’t have a legal right to occupy in the first place. Israel didn’t forcefully transfer anybody. Approximately one tenth of Israel’s population currently resides in over 200 communities and neighborhoods across Judea, Samaria and eastern Jerusalem, out of personal choice.

http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Mr-President-The-Israeli-settlements-are-legal-468410

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+1 And, cue a variation of the popular song: "Send in the haters, they're here." nt jonno99 Sep 2016 #1
Well articulated & correct. Of course, enemies of the Jews would argue otherwise.... shira Sep 2016 #2
So what? aranthus Sep 2016 #3
The problem with your argument Mosby Sep 2016 #4
History should inform the present, not control it. aranthus Sep 2016 #5
The author of the OP hasn't read the relevant part of the Geneva convention about an occupier Little Tich Sep 2016 #6
Since Geneva IV doesn't apply to other occupations/settlements globally... shira Sep 2016 #7
Wow, that's a pretty big bag of pick'n mix of different situations... Little Tich Sep 2016 #8
Nah - they're all occupations, all population transfers, "settlers". Enough denial. shira Sep 2016 #9
Too much of a leap of faith, I'm afraid - I still think that you should be able to actually prove Little Tich Sep 2016 #12
It's more proof than any of the idiotic anti-Israel narratives... shira Sep 2016 #14
Enjoy your apartheid state while you have it. geek tragedy Sep 2016 #10
Every citizen of Israel has the same rights regardless of race, religion, or ethnicity oberliner Sep 2016 #19
Liberal democracies don't practice apartheid geek tragedy Sep 2016 #20
Right, and neither does Israel - even in the W.Bank. Give it up. n/t shira Sep 2016 #21
Yes it does shira .... Israeli Sep 2016 #23
"Jewish Only Roads" is a lie, so why keep posting this shit? n/t shira Sep 2016 #25
2008 shira ..... Israeli Sep 2016 #24
Hmmm....a road Israelis use that Palestinians cannot is not Apartheid. shira Sep 2016 #26
Agreed oberliner Sep 2016 #28
To me Israel has a few choices sabbat hunter Sep 2016 #11
The problem is Israel negotiating with a Palestinian leadership... shira Sep 2016 #15
What is your solution sabbat hunter Sep 2016 #27
There's always something that can be done; not that it will result in peace. shira Sep 2016 #29
If they don't negotiate with sabbat hunter Sep 2016 #30
Right, it's basically hopeless. n/t shira Sep 2016 #32
Oded Ravivi ???? !!!!!........ Israeli Sep 2016 #13
The author could be Uri Avnery. Facts are facts. n/t shira Sep 2016 #16
Come on ....now you are being extremely silly shira ..... Israeli Sep 2016 #17
I don't think you got the point. I know Avnery didn't write that.... shira Sep 2016 #18
LOL ..... Israeli Sep 2016 #22
Why should any part sabbat hunter Sep 2016 #31
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