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In reply to the discussion: Stop With the Nonsense That Palestinians Are a Minority in Israel [View all]Shaktimaan
(5,397 posts)47. I don't think that's right.
Israel has full control of all border crossings, directly or indirectly, and of all goods and people going in our out Gaza.
Well, Egypt controls Rafah. If you're trying to imply that Israel controls the Rafah crossing indirectly through Egypt and that this proxy control means that Gaza is "actually" under the control of Israel, then I'm not sure you're making a very good argument.
If you have any problem with the fact that it means that Israel still occupies Gaza, perhaps you should write a complaint to the UN.
Well, it isn't a fact in any case. It's your interpretation. If it were a fact you'd be able to prove it. At this point you seem to be arguing that a blockade is the same thing as a military occupation, which would imply that Egypt is also occupying Gaza at the moment.
Either way, I'm not sure why I'd write to the UN to complain. They don't have anything to do with this determination.
I am curious though, how you think that Israel has direct control over the entirety of Gaza? I understand that Israel's border policies affect conditions in Gaza, but in what way is the IDF controlling life in Gaza city? What exactly in Gaza city is Israel controlling?
I would also like to remind you that Israel is bound by the Geneva convention Article 59 to permit unhindered access of basic supplies to the civilian population in the blockaded area - something which Israel currently isn't doing.
That's not what article 59 says. Israel has to supply food, medicine and clothing in the event it's limited. I'm not aware of a limited food issue.
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Stop With the Nonsense That Palestinians Are a Minority in Israel [View all]
Little Tich
Aug 2016
OP
Gaza is under Israeli occupation - the wellbeing of the people there is Israel's responsibility as
Little Tich
Aug 2016
#5
Israel is still the Occupying Power according to the Geneva Convention, sorry... n/t
Little Tich
Aug 2016
#14
They're not occupying Gaza according to any definition of a military occupation. n/t
shira
Aug 2016
#21
The UN, international law and the international community considers Gaza to be under Israeli occupat
Little Tich
Aug 2016
#26
Purely political. Has nothing to do with actual International law, definitions...
shira
Aug 2016
#28
Before 2005, there were settlements in Gaza as well as a significant Israeli military presence.
oberliner
Aug 2016
#22
You seem to be unaware of the existence of the "Agreement on Movement and Access" from 2005 between
Little Tich
Sep 2016
#50
Perhaps Israel is an evil state - at least when it comes to the treatment of Palestinians?
Little Tich
Aug 2016
#6
The purpose of Israel's treatment of Palestininans is to benefit Jewish Israelis at the expense of
Little Tich
Aug 2016
#9
Because the goal of BDS is two states, or at least better conditions for the Palestinians under
Little Tich
Aug 2016
#18
Show me where BDS' goal is 2 states. It's certainly not a Jewish one next to a Palestinian state...
shira
Aug 2016
#19
It's my firm belief that a viable Palestinian is impossible without the complete removal of all the
Little Tich
Aug 2016
#24
I disagree with your assertion that BDS has a goal that's connected to either the one or two state
Little Tich
Aug 2016
#32
The goal of BDS is primarily to promote Palestinian rights by opposing Apartheid and the occupation.
Little Tich
Aug 2016
#36
Omar Barghouti says the 3 tier plan means 1 Palestinian state next to another Palestinian state....
shira
Aug 2016
#38
That's just BS, considering BDS support of Right-of-Return, which is 100% antisemitism.
shira
Sep 2016
#39
I think you're splitting hairs - a state deliberately causing harm to people is evil regardless
Little Tich
Aug 2016
#23
I don't know of a single instance where Palestinians have been treated equally to Israelis
Little Tich
Sep 2016
#44
I was referring to the Palestinians under occupation in the West Bank, East Jerusalem and Gaza.
Little Tich
Sep 2016
#49
So you can't find a single example where the Palestinians in the occupied territories haven't been
Little Tich
Sep 2016
#53
You seem to unaware of the harsh economic conditions for the Palestinian population in the West Bank
Little Tich
Sep 2016
#55