Israel/Palestine

shira

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28. Didn't say you did - but those acts, celebrating murder, is pure evil unseen anywhere else....

Wed Sep 14, 2016, 11:18 PM

Sep 2016

Name another part of the world where the murder of young and old, pregnant or holocaust survivors....is praised, celebrated, and rewarded. You can't. And why can't you, Ken? What's different in this situation? Don't tell me you don't know. No deflections please...

BTW, you have yet to explain how, if this WAS solely due to antisemitism, the tactics the IDF has used against ordinary Palestinians on a day-to-day basis would cause that particular feeling to go away. You do realize that it's not possible to oppress a people into tolerance, right?

You think Israel oppresses decent Palestinian people for no other reason than that Israel is "bad"? The antisemitism won't go away because the leadership constantly incites its people, rewards terror....to the point that a majority of Palestinians support terror attacks. Name another situation globally where any people - oppressed or otherwise - supports murdering innocents. If you can't, then why can't you?

The PLO was formed in 1964 because the Palestinians, in addition to not wanting to ever be ruled by the Israelis, didn't want to be ruled by the Hashemites(and rule by the Hashemites is the ONLY thing that could ever come to Palestinians of your preferred option of an Israel-Jordan confederation, Jordan is going to be ruled by the Hashemites for the rest of eternity and the Palestinians would have no hope of any control over their destiny in that scenario.

That's dumb.

What are the goals within the PLO charter of 1964? Maybe summarize in 1-2 sentences, Ken. Did the PLO want 2 states in 1964? Be honest and tell me what they wanted.

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Report: PA President Mahmoud Abbas worked as KGB agent in Damascus during 80's [View all] ericson00 Sep 2016 OP

so Abbas is both a terror enabler and a communist! ericson00 Sep 2016 #1

why would this be surprising? Warren Stupidity Sep 2016 #2

more interesting to see who defends this scumbag ericson00 Sep 2016 #3

It's a waste of time trying to discredit Abbas, which is mainly about trying to discredit Fatah. Ken Burch Sep 2016 #7

So who should the Israeli's leftynyc Sep 2016 #11

It's a waste of time NOT to try and sit down and negotiate. Ken Burch Sep 2016 #13

And what would be the point leftynyc Sep 2016 #14

How much can they do to get their house together... Ken Burch Sep 2016 #15

Always making excuses for leaders of Hamas & the PLO, aren't you? shira Sep 2016 #19

They actually haven't made any offers remotely like that. Ken Burch Sep 2016 #21

1937 Peel, 1947 Partition, 1965 Eshkol plan, 1967 Khartoum.... shira Sep 2016 #23

If it was wrong for the Palestinians to reject those, it was equally wrong for the Israelis Ken Burch Sep 2016 #25

You didn't answer why those proposals were rejected. Still waiting.... shira Sep 2016 #27

I don't personally know all the history there, and wasn't one of those who did the rejecting. Ken Burch Sep 2016 #29

Ken, you're clearly in denial - unable to acknowledge easy reality. shira Sep 2016 #31

I'm not anti-Israel. I'm pro-peace. Ken Burch Sep 2016 #32

You can't be pro-peace when you refuse to call out evil for what it is.... shira Sep 2016 #33

Your argument that more Palestinians leftynyc Sep 2016 #30

NY Times also reporting this ericson00 Sep 2016 #4

Why the Abbas KGB ‘revelation’ came out now Little Tich Sep 2016 #5

kill the messenger? All of Abbas' moral authority, not that there was much to begin with, ericson00 Sep 2016 #6

Nothing positive would come of removing Abbas from the leadership, Ken Burch Sep 2016 #8

Criticizing & condemning Abbas, putting pressure on him can only help matters. shira Sep 2016 #17

correction 6chars Sep 2016 #9

the PLO isn't evil. It had to exist. Ken Burch Sep 2016 #16

The PLO still incites, praises, & rewards terror. Their charter still calls for that.... shira Sep 2016 #18

I don't approve of their tactics, but Israeli intransigence is the reason Fatah and Hamas exist. Ken Burch Sep 2016 #20

You don't approve their Jew hatred, rewarding & praising of murder of innocents.... shira Sep 2016 #22

I don't celebrate any of those things you listed and you damn well know it. Ken Burch Sep 2016 #24

Didn't say you did - but those acts, celebrating murder, is pure evil unseen anywhere else.... shira Sep 2016 #28

Maalot 6chars Sep 2016 #26

I don't have your ability to draw definite conclusions from such ambiguous evidence. Sorry. n/t Little Tich Sep 2016 #10

Feel free to list leftynyc Sep 2016 #12