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Israel/Palestine

shira

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11. At what cost to end the occupation? Peace won't result from an end to occupation....

Reply to Little Tich (Reply #1)

Mon Sep 5, 2016, 01:14 PM

Sep 2016

If history is any indication, an IDF pullout from the W.Bank with all settlers will just result in what we see in Gaza. It could even be worse as ISIS or Iran takes over.

The problem is that Israel haters deny any security threat to the Jews of Israel, which IMO is worse than Holocaust Denial given the real serious threat Jews face with Hamas, Hezbollah, ISIS, Iran, etc... living practically across the street from them in East/West Jerusalem.

Tell me Tich, what's your plan B if Israel pulls out and it's a disaster with Hamas or worse taking control of the W.Bank? How many dead people on both sides would make you consider that an IDF pullout from the W.Bank is a bad idea? 10's of thousands dead? 100,000? 250,000?

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What the Hebron Shooter's Trial Is Really All About [View all] Israeli Sep 2016 OP

It always goes back to the occupation - it's easier for the IDF to maintain moral standards if the Little Tich Sep 2016 #1

Should Jews be allowed to live in Hebron? oberliner Sep 2016 #2

The question is hypothetical - the two-state solution is dead. Little Tich Sep 2016 #3

The two-state solution is the only solution oberliner Sep 2016 #4

I thought you were a proponent of the Geneva initiative? Little Tich Sep 2016 #5

Absolutely oberliner Sep 2016 #6

Sometimes the problem is the solution. Little Tich Sep 2016 #7

Not in this case oberliner Sep 2016 #8

The problem is a racist policy of no Jews in the W.Bank or Gaza. shira Sep 2016 #10

The problem is that you can't have settlements and a two-state solution at the same time. Little Tich Sep 2016 #12

Sure you can, if Jews are considered human & worthy of being Palestinian citizens. shira Sep 2016 #17

I don't believe in miracles. Little Tich Sep 2016 #19

It's not the settlements, so be honest. You'd be against the '47 Partition Plan too. shira Sep 2016 #21

I'm sorry for not being dumb enough to believe that a Palestinian state will magically appear Little Tich Sep 2016 #23

Seriously - you'd have rejected the '47 Partition Plan too. So enough of the BS. shira Sep 2016 #24

Always , always goes back to the occupation Little Tich... Israeli Sep 2016 #9

If I was an Israeli citizen, I wouldn't hesitate to serve in the IDF. Little Tich Sep 2016 #13

If you were an Israeli citizen ..... Israeli Sep 2016 #15

With regard to .......... Israeli Sep 2016 #16

I know all that, and I still wouldn't hesitate to serve. Little Tich Sep 2016 #18

Most of us know that too .... Israeli Sep 2016 #22

With regard to ..... Israeli Sep 2016 #25

It's a bit ironic that the IDF is primarily an occupation force. Little Tich Sep 2016 #26

At what cost to end the occupation? Peace won't result from an end to occupation.... shira Sep 2016 #11

What makes you believe that Israel would ever pull out of the occupied territories? Little Tich Sep 2016 #14

thought experiment 6chars Sep 2016 #20