Israel/Palestine

FBaggins

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42. Was that supposed to be responsive?

Wed May 18, 2016, 01:27 PM

May 2016

I point out that it isn't an authentic movement, but rather a slippery-slope tactic of the BDS movement... and your rebuttal is a link from a rabidly BDS organization? Were you trying to be entertaining or does it just come naturally?

I point out that many of those products are produced by Palestinian employees who benefit from the income. Your response doesn't even try to touch on this fact.

Lastly, I pointed out that most peace proposals assume land swaps that would put the vast majority of the population of the settlements into Israel proper. Did you think that you refuted this simple fact by claiming that the position wasn't unanimous? If so, you failed miserably.

and Netanyahu hasn't offered any swaps.

Untrue.

However, Palestinians have consistently stressed that any land swap must be equal in size and quality. The London-based Al-Quds Al-Arabi translated an Israeli report saying that the major disagreement between Palestinian and Israeli negotiators is the size and quality of the swap. According to this report, the gap between the two sides is huge. Israel wishes to annex nearly 10% of the West Bank, while Palestinians are open to a much smaller 3%. The Israeli report, originally published on the Hebrew-language website Walla News, says that the percentage is derived from the calls by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to include the Hebron and Beit El settlements. In January, AFP picked up an interview from Israeli radio in which Netanyahu said Israel would like to annex 13% of the West Bank. All these figures exclude Jerusalem.

According to UN resolutions and international law, they've got to go.

Also untrue. There's an argument to be made that they violate a number of international standards. At the same time, an easy argument can be made that the Palestinians have committed scores of war crimes and other violations of international standards themselves. You don't get to point at one side's violations and claim that it means that they give up everything.

That's why they're called peace negotiations.

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Detroit Jews ask: Are settlement boycotts the same as BDS? [View all] Little Tich May 2016 OP

I think a lot of this .... Israeli May 2016 #1

Fortunately, today there's the internet, and it's very good at unindoctrinating people. Little Tich May 2016 #2

Funny you should say that ..... Israeli May 2016 #10

It's not that at all. aranthus May 2016 #3

No IMO it's that many proIsrael American already believe that the West Bank settlements azurnoir May 2016 #4

As one of those pro-Israel American Jews aranthus May 2016 #5

well as ou say you're 1 azurnoir May 2016 #7

And you're not. aranthus May 2016 #8

you make oh so many assumptions don't you azurnoir May 2016 #9

More of a conclusion, but please correct me. aranthus May 2016 #11

Wow........ Israeli May 2016 #13

Yea but he's talking about the average secular American Jew King_David May 2016 #17

" secular " KD ..........????? !!!!!!!!!!!!........... Israeli May 2016 #20

Maybe you should come learn about us KD ? Israeli May 2016 #21

Oh I turned up alright, but you weren't anywhere near Tel Aviv King_David May 2016 #31

Liar , liar ..... Israeli May 2016 #40

Strange , I don't remember making any concrete plan at all King_David May 2016 #43

See Post 37. n/t aranthus May 2016 #38

Since you are so free with your interrogation..... Israeli May 2016 #15

Correct decision by the court. Beyond that, not at all relevant. n/t aranthus May 2016 #26

I'm pretty sure the assumptions Aranthus made are correct King_David May 2016 #18

If I were you I would let "Aranthus " answer for himself .... Israeli May 2016 #22

somehow your comment makes me remember this does it seem familiar to you? azurnoir May 2016 #23

Go easy on him azurnoir..... Israeli May 2016 #27

Lol I know can't say I wasn't warned azurnoir May 2016 #28

What an ignorant,sexist and in this case - homophobic thing to say on a progressive forum... King_David May 2016 #34

kick King_David May 2016 #47

What an ignorant,sexist and in this case - homophobic thing to say on a progressive forum... King_David May 2016 #48

I have absolutely no idea WTF your talking about here and I assume you have absolutely no idea WTF King_David May 2016 #32

lol I said I knew what it signified but I'm glad to see you do too azurnoir May 2016 #33

Clueless King_David May 2016 #35

are you? sorry to hear that azurnoir May 2016 #36

" Clueless " Israeli May 2016 #44

Thank you King_David May 2016 #45

Not an assumption aranthus May 2016 #25

I am not nor was I ever religious so there for no torah lessons azurnoir May 2016 #29

Gadol .... Israeli May 2016 #30

I wasn't asking if you were religious. aranthus May 2016 #37

You think Peace Now is anti-Israel ? Israeli May 2016 #14

Way to divert. aranthus May 2016 #41

That's absolutely the reason without a doubt. n/t shira May 2016 #39

The same? Of course not. FBaggins May 2016 #6

The Illegality of all Israeli Settlements Little Tich May 2016 #12

Adalah is a joke. We went over that already with their fictitious list of 50 discriminatory laws... shira May 2016 #16

You never convinced me with your weak arguments about Adalah's list. Little Tich May 2016 #19

Adalah's claims would make the Gregorian Calendar & Scandinavian flags discriminatory.... shira May 2016 #24

I think that it would be more inclusive to include official references to Israel's Arab heritage and Little Tich May 2016 #49

The Christian Gregorian Calendar is not discriminatory, nor are Scandinavian flags.... shira May 2016 #50

Was that supposed to be responsive? FBaggins May 2016 #42

It seems to me that the offer to the Palestinians was just unspecified areas of desert: Little Tich May 2016 #46

As to transferring civilians, you have no idea what you're writing about... shira May 2016 #51