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oberliner

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12. You are smart enough to see the game Medea is playing, I would think
Thu May 12, 2016, 09:20 PM
May 2016

1. An honest comparison of the treatment of the "non-dominant groups" in Israel and Saudi Arabia. In the Saudi section, Media mentions women. Women in Israel are treated very differently than women in Saudi Arabia. It is a night and day difference between the two countries on that score. Even if Medea wishes to say that Israel treats Palestinian citizens of Israel the way Saudi Arabia treats women that would be preposterous. Basically this paragraph, on the Israeli side, isn't talking about anything within Israel itself or the way Israel treats any of its citizens (be they Jewish, Muslim, Christian, what have you), but rather talking about the Occupied Territories (and actually only the West Bank, since she talks of settlements and there are no settlements in Gaza). So it's not really a demonstration of any way that Israel is "just like Saudi Arabia". In fact, by bringing up women, she is actually highlighting one of the many ways that Israel is nothing like Saudi Arabia.

2. Both countries have engaged in military conflicts with neighbors. That's true. But that is true of most of the countries in that region. In fact, Israel has itself been invaded by its neighbors since it came into being as a country on several occasions. If she had said they are both strong military powers in the Middle East, that would have been a more reasonable way to make a comparison.

3. This one is just preposterous. The role that Islam plays in Saudi Arabia is not at all similar to the role that Judaism plays in Israel. I hope we can at least agree on that score.

4. This is just Medea trying to be cute. Israel training police officers in the US is akin to Saudi Arabia spreading Wahhabism across the Middle East and North Africa? These are not similar.

5. Yes, they both hate Iran. The list of countries that are not keen on Iran is pretty long, though.

6. This is BS. Not only in the descriptors she uses to talk about what happened in Egypt (a much larger discussion) but also the claim that Israel gave support to the coup is conspiracy theory nonsense.

7. Speaking of conspiracy theory nonsense, Israel does not support Al-Nusra. I wonder what Medea would say if wounded Syrians who were brought to Israeli hospitals were refused treatment and left to die.

8. This again shows the preposterous nature of Medea's little game. That she can even imply that Saudi Arabia's beheading of children is in some way equivalent to Israel holding some Palestinian minors in prison is just bizarre, even for her.

9. AIPAC, as you know, is an American organization. Only American citizens can be members. But, yes, every country lobbies the US for favorable treatment.

10. This one is true. They are both US allies. (As is the UK, Canada, France, etc.)

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Medea Benjamin? Really? Seriously? King_David May 2016 #1
Sometimes it's good to know what the crazies think. n/t aranthus May 2016 #2
Fine sign that you have no useful rebuttal to the points raised. Scootaloo May 2016 #4
That's because it's BS on its face to all but the haters. aranthus May 2016 #5
Everything I read in this group is from some heavily biased nutball or another Scootaloo May 2016 #6
Not from participants who attend Holocaust Denying conferences in Iran... shira May 2016 #8
You are smart enough to see the game Medea is playing, I would think oberliner May 2016 #12
I just wanted to see someone make an effort for rebuttal Scootaloo May 2016 #14
Remember, the title of the piece is "10 Ways Israel is Just Like Saudi Arabia" oberliner May 2016 #16
Yes, 10 ways Bernie Sanders is just like Donald Drumpf would be the best rebuttal here. shira May 2016 #22
I hear Trump is very popular in Israel-Bernie not so much end of story azurnoir May 2016 #36
Hillary would win over Trump in Israel. In America, maybe not. End of story. n/t shira May 2016 #40
would she? most Israeli's feel Trump would do better with Bibi azurnoir May 2016 #43
She is not credible King_David May 2016 #53
Apparently we need to break down David Duke's clownish arguments now.... shira May 2016 #54
Well thought out. thank you. Scary that so many people argue the opposite MariaThinks May 2016 #52
I wouldn't bother if Donald Trump wrote it either. nt King_David May 2016 #13
I don't think Donald Trump can write. Scootaloo May 2016 #15
The poster should be ashamed 6chars May 2016 #3
The poster said "godspeed" to terrorists so this OP is par for the course. n/t shira May 2016 #7
Come on. Quit being so lazy and at least provide a link... Purveyor May 2016 #9
Palestinian woman stabs Israeli man in Jerusalem, is shot oberliner May 2016 #11
so apparently you consider "Palestinians" to be terrorists? Because that's what the comment said azurnoir May 2016 #29
Poster seemed to be wishing "godspeed" in response to a Palestinian stabbing an Israeli civilian oberliner May 2016 #30
he said it reference to Palestinians attitude towards Israeli apartheid policies in the West Bank azurnoir May 2016 #31
LoL at your covering for another DU's support of terror vs. Israelis. n/t shira May 2016 #33
The OP it was posted in response to was: "Palestinian woman stabs Israeli man in Jerusalem, is shot" oberliner May 2016 #35
yes it was but the comment made no reference to that only to the feelings in general of Palestinians azurnoir May 2016 #37
What was the "Sounds like..." in reference to? oberliner May 2016 #41
the overall atmosphere over East Jerusalem at least that's how I read it azurnoir May 2016 #44
You think anyone takes that excuse you give for a poster supporting terrorism against Jews serious? King_David May 2016 #46
So now that a link was provided leftynyc May 2016 #19
What is there to say. My statement is clear and self explanatory. nt Purveyor May 2016 #24
Yes, leftynyc May 2016 #25
Where does godspeed to terrorists fit with the Democratic Party? 6chars May 2016 #27
No idea leftynyc May 2016 #32
It fits with extremist right wing bigots, King_David May 2016 #47
10 Ways Palestine Is Just Like Saudi Arabia oberliner May 2016 #10
Well done (n/t) leftynyc May 2016 #20
Interesting OP, but I think a better comparison would be with Apartheid South Africa in the occupied Little Tich May 2016 #17
Interesting? It's written by an unhinged liar who attended Iran's.... shira May 2016 #18
How about apartheid laws of Islam? elljay May 2016 #28
For me, a democratic political system is necessary for creating an Apartheid system. Little Tich May 2016 #45
Apartheid denial. That's why you ignore/deny Lebanese Apartheid vs. Palestinians.... shira May 2016 #50
Are you posting in the right thread? Little Tich May 2016 #56
Stay on topic. It's about Apartheid vs. Palestinians.... shira May 2016 #59
I thought the OP was about comparing Israel with Saudi Arabia. Little Tich May 2016 #65
You brought up S.Africa and I commented on that. shira May 2016 #67
Anyone who takes this leftynyc May 2016 #21
We are witnessing again what irrational hate has looked like for centuries.... shira May 2016 #23
They take it seriously because Jews are involved... King_David May 2016 #60
...and then some. 2naSalit May 2016 #26
Really? Here are many ways Bernie Sanders is just like Don Drumpf.... shira May 2016 #34
better yet what do you think? especially considering Trumps popularity in Israel vs Bernie's azurnoir May 2016 #38
The point is the OP is crap. And Israelis prefer Hillary over Drumpf. Next! n/t shira May 2016 #39
it's pretty much neck and neck for the 2 and Israeli's feel Trump would do better with Bibi azurnoir May 2016 #42
Piss poor attempt to change the topic about what that filth wrote about Bernie. King_David May 2016 #48
I didn't change the topic I asked what the person who posted it thought about it azurnoir May 2016 #49
i think this pegs saudi arabia but there is no truth about Israel in this piece MariaThinks May 2016 #51
A challenge: let's take the crap claims of this article as if they were true Albertoo May 2016 #55
I don't see them protesting the homophobic filth either King_David May 2016 #57
You are a racist ;) Albertoo May 2016 #58
Medea has actually walked the walk with respect to Saudi Arabia oberliner May 2016 #61
I'd be impressed if she devoted similar energy to beating up China over Tibet. aranthus May 2016 #62
Medea loves the Iranian regime, has been on PRESS-TV an awful lot... shira May 2016 #63
But not activist campus groups like BDS or SJP Albertoo May 2016 #66
This is jaw.dropping poor and.awkward cali May 2016 #64
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