Israel/Palestine

LeftishBrit

(41,442 posts)

16. Firstly...

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 11:33 AM

Apr 2016

yes, there were limited negotiations about transfer in the 1930s; but that hardly makes Hitler's policy pro-Zionist; it does mean that he took some advantage of Zionism, as he did of many things.

Hitler was for far longer and far more extensively involved in an alliance with the Soviet Union: that did not make Hitler a supporter of the Left, much as some right-wingers might like to represent it in that way.

In any case, why did Livingstone need to bring up Hitler at all in this context?!

Secondly, as regards 'free speech': having free speech does not mean having the right to be considered as a representative of the Labour Party, regardless of what one says or does. People have the freedom to campaign for the Tories, but they would rightly be kicked out of/ not admitted to the Labour Party if they did so - and vice versa. E.g. as far as I'm concerned, Blair lost the right to be considered as a representative of the Labour Party when he ganged up with Bush!

Edit history

Please sign in to view edit histories.

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

35 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

MP Naz Shah suspended from Labour [View all] Eugene Apr 2016 OP

Do we know what Shah's Facebook anti-semitic remarks were?...... kayecy Apr 2016 #1

Good riddance to bad rubbish King_David Apr 2016 #2

and now, Communist Ken has also been! ericson00 Apr 2016 #3

+1 King_David Apr 2016 #4

But is it anti-Semitic?......... kayecy Apr 2016 #5

the Jews achieve things; there is no right to hate them ericson00 Apr 2016 #6

Do you know what she said that was anti-Semitic........? kayecy Apr 2016 #7

I prefer, at least, if my politicians make only FACTUALLY correct statements... LeftishBrit Apr 2016 #13

He's not a communist, but he has gone quite loony and antisemitic with age LeftishBrit Apr 2016 #10

In spiraling anti-Semitism row, Labour suspends Livingstone for saying Hitler backed Zionism Little Tich Apr 2016 #8

Have British Jews and the Labour Party gone mad? kayecy Apr 2016 #9

It's history revisionism anyway LeftishBrit Apr 2016 #11

Yea the "Jews " must have gone "mad "in your bizarro world, King_David Apr 2016 #15

I'm sad that he's descended to this, and glad the party have acted LeftishBrit Apr 2016 #12

Your comments are valid but ......... kayecy Apr 2016 #14

Firstly... LeftishBrit Apr 2016 #16

I'm curious, does being a Palestinian supporter mean automatically charging ahead to defend.... shira Apr 2016 #17

I see you are back at your old habit of talking nonsense............n/t kayecy Apr 2016 #18

Naz Shah asked supporters to vote in an online poll because Jews.... shira May 2016 #23

The last folks to advocate mass transport of Jews were Nazis. shira May 2016 #29

The last folks to advocate ethnic cleansing of Palestinians were............ kayecy May 2016 #30

Deflect all you want. I want to see you acknowledge Naz Shah's antisemitism. shira May 2016 #31

I think you might be wrong there........ kayecy May 2016 #32

Finkelstein is a vile POS who always equates Jews to Nazis. shira May 2016 #33

Ex-London Mayor Cites Netanyahu's Mufti Comments to Defend 'Zionist Hitler' Claim Israeli May 2016 #19

Are you actually trying to defend Livingstone branford May 2016 #20

Nope ....... Israeli May 2016 #21

Of course Netanyahu would say crap like that; he's an unhinged racist idiot (or panderer to unhinged LeftishBrit May 2016 #22

These were bad comments on her part. The suspension was justified. Ken Burch May 2016 #24

These people are being Antisemitic King_David May 2016 #26

Kick King_David May 2016 #34

Why does antisemitism have to be treated in complete isolation, though? Ken Burch May 2016 #35

and people wonder why majorites of Americans, and the Dems who voted ericson00 May 2016 #25

What the HELL has one to do with the other??? LeftishBrit May 2016 #27

the anti-Semitism is based in Islamic causes ericson00 May 2016 #28