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Showing Original Post only (View all)As E15 Gas Becomes More Common, Remember That It's Terrible For These Engines [View all]
I doubt that it's "illegal" to use E15 in old engines, but they weren't designed to run on it.
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As E15 Gas Becomes More Common, Remember That It's Terrible For These Engines
BY B. L. JOHNSON APRIL 12, 2026 5:25 AM EST
Way back in 1978, the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) issued a waiver to the Clean Air Act, allowing gasoline that was made up of up to 10% ethanol, or E10, to be sold at the fuel pump. E10 is still the gas that is most commonly sold today.
Decades later, in 2010, the EPA would begin allowing E15 gas (15% ethanol) to be used, but only in 2007 model year cars or newer. The final rule would allow E15 to be used in 2001 cars and newer, as well as modern flex-fuel engines. E15 is normally not available in the summer, but the EPA has issued waivers in the past few years to allow its sale year-round. (Here's why ethanol is mixed into gasoline in the first place.)
It is illegal to use E15, sold as 88 octane, in older engines. It is also illegal to use it in lawnmowers, motorcycles, boats, heavy-duty vehicles like delivery trucks, and aircraft. Why? Ethanol is not kind to engines, especially older ones, and that 15% amounts to a lot of corn juice blended into your gasoline. If an engine isn't built to deal with ethanol, it can do a lot of damage. But regardless of how old your car is, you should check to see if your manufacturer has even authorized E15 gas to be used in it. Most manufacturers have only authorized its use in cars much newer than 2001, and some don't allow it at all.
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As E15 Gas Becomes More Common, Remember That It's Terrible For These Engines
BY B. L. JOHNSON APRIL 12, 2026 5:25 AM EST
Way back in 1978, the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) issued a waiver to the Clean Air Act, allowing gasoline that was made up of up to 10% ethanol, or E10, to be sold at the fuel pump. E10 is still the gas that is most commonly sold today.
Decades later, in 2010, the EPA would begin allowing E15 gas (15% ethanol) to be used, but only in 2007 model year cars or newer. The final rule would allow E15 to be used in 2001 cars and newer, as well as modern flex-fuel engines. E15 is normally not available in the summer, but the EPA has issued waivers in the past few years to allow its sale year-round. (Here's why ethanol is mixed into gasoline in the first place.)
It is illegal to use E15, sold as 88 octane, in older engines. It is also illegal to use it in lawnmowers, motorcycles, boats, heavy-duty vehicles like delivery trucks, and aircraft. Why? Ethanol is not kind to engines, especially older ones, and that 15% amounts to a lot of corn juice blended into your gasoline. If an engine isn't built to deal with ethanol, it can do a lot of damage. But regardless of how old your car is, you should check to see if your manufacturer has even authorized E15 gas to be used in it. Most manufacturers have only authorized its use in cars much newer than 2001, and some don't allow it at all.
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mahatmakanejeeves
Yesterday
OP
Um .... what choice do we have? Like there are E10 only gas stations? /nt
bucolic_frolic
Yesterday
#1
Ignoring that discrepancy, to suggest the overwhelming majority of cars manufactured AFTER 2000
hlthe2b
Yesterday
#8
I have a 2019 VW GTI Autobahn. The owners manual says to use E-free, so that's what I do.
ms liberty
Yesterday
#4
File this misinformation under, as my dad would say, OH, BULLSHIT! This is a story paid for by the petroleum industry.
ffr
Yesterday
#7
Ethanol can be corrosive. And if you want to void a Toyota warranty that specifically says so,
hlthe2b
Yesterday
#9
Thank you for confirming what I wrote and you appearently didn't read in what I wrote.
ffr
Yesterday
#10
That is not my opinion, that is fact! Ethanol has no chemical properties in it that harms engines.
ffr
Yesterday
#12
Simply not true. I am not going to argue with someone who ignores basic chemistry and
hlthe2b
Yesterday
#13
You fail to debate correctly. Impeach what I have said and provide references that back up your claims
ffr
Yesterday
#14
No I just don't see you worth my time. Ethanol is inherently corrosive--only a matter of degree
hlthe2b
Yesterday
#15
Once again, you are failing to impeach what I've said. You use a cut-n-paste from a biodieselfoundation.org "blog?'
ffr
Yesterday
#16
Ah yes. "If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit"...
hlthe2b
Yesterday
#17
This is a tragic turn of events for the world's largest wetland, the Pantanal.
NNadir
21 hrs ago
#19