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5. One of the detestable bullshit things that antinukes feature consistently with their murderous obsessions...
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 11:15 AM
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Last edited Mon Dec 29, 2025, 12:29 PM - Edit history (1)

...is that the release of any amount of radiation is a tragedy, and every release of stuff that actually kills people, fossil fuel waste, is acceptable.

The world is radioactive; it has always been radioactive and always will be radioactive. In fact, the essential element potassium is radioactive, and one would die without it.

It is simply not true that the release of radioactivity is a massive tragedy, and it is a crime against humanity that this worthless bill of paranoid bullshit has been successfully sold to an illiterate public, killing people.

I covered this - unfortunately reading it would involve understanding called "science," something with which, in my experience, antinukes are almost completely ignorant - in a rather long post in which I pointed to the absurdity of this ignorance, wherein, uneducated antinukes, to repeat the "strawman" that another uneducated antinuke claimed I was making, worry that a radioactive atom from Fukushima will end up in their pernicious brains even though their brains are "smoking" (relatively) with potassium.

828 Underground Nuclear Tests, Plutonium Migration in Nevada, Dunning, Kruger, Strawmen, and Tunnels

It is just stupid, incredibly stupid, to spend $200 billion dollars to "clean up" any nuclear disaster site to a standard that antinukes do not apply to anything else, including the radioactive thorium tailings dumped in Baotou to make magnets for their soul and wilderness destroying rickety wind turbines, almost all of which will be huge liabilities before today's newborns enter college, not there are any antinukes anywhere who give a rat's ass about future generations.

Rather than squander this money, the world should build more nuclear plants. People certainly should not squander the roughly 5 trillion dollars squandered on solar and wind junk in the last 10 years, since this has had no result in addressing the collapse of the planetary atmosphere.

There is no evidence, none, of a "severe" consequence of Fukushima on human life, or for that matter, any form of life, certainly not any evidence of it killing as many people as will die in the next few hours from the unrestricted use of dangerous fossil fuels.

Of course, I have never met, and will never meet, an antinuke who gives a flying fuck about the roughly seven million people who will die this year from air pollution, which breaks down to about 19,000 people per day, 800 people per hour, which further translates, 13 people per minute, meaning in 10 minutes it took to write this post, 130 people died from antinuke ignorance.

The scientific publication which I often link referring to these thoughtless and brainless crimes against humanity, and the standard text I keep of the same whenever an antinuke comes here cheering for air pollution is here:

: Global burden of 87 risk factors in 204 countries and territories, 1990–2019: a systematic analysis for the Global Burden of Disease Study 2019 (Lancet Volume 396, Issue 10258, 17–23 October 2020, Pages 1223-1249). This study is a huge undertaking and the list of authors from around the world is rather long. These studies are always open sourced; and I invite people who want to carry on about Fukushima to open it and search the word "radiation." It appears once. Radon, a side product brought to the surface by fracking while we all wait for the grand so called "renewable energy" nirvana that did not come, is not here and won't come, appears however: Household radon, from the decay of natural uranium, which has been cycling through the environment ever since oxygen appeared in the Earth's atmosphere.

Here is what it says about air pollution deaths in the 2019 Global Burden of Disease Survey, if one is too busy to open it oneself because one is too busy carrying on about Fukushima:

The top five risks for attributable deaths for females were high SBP (5·25 million [95% UI 4·49–6·00] deaths, or 20·3% [17·5–22·9] of all female deaths in 2019), dietary risks (3·48 million [2·78–4·37] deaths, or 13·5% [10·8–16·7] of all female deaths in 2019), high FPG (3·09 million [2·40–3·98] deaths, or 11·9% [9·4–15·3] of all female deaths in 2019), air pollution (2·92 million [2·53–3·33] deaths or 11·3% [10·0–12·6] of all female deaths in 2019), and high BMI (2·54 million [1·68–3·56] deaths or 9·8% [6·5–13·7] of all female deaths in 2019). For males, the top five risks differed slightly. In 2019, the leading Level 2 risk factor for attributable deaths globally in males was tobacco (smoked, second-hand, and chewing), which accounted for 6·56 million (95% UI 6·02–7·10) deaths (21·4% [20·5–22·3] of all male deaths in 2019), followed by high SBP, which accounted for 5·60 million (4·90–6·29) deaths (18·2% [16·2–20·1] of all male deaths in 2019). The third largest Level 2 risk factor for attributable deaths among males in 2019 was dietary risks (4·47 million [3·65–5·45] deaths, or 14·6% [12·0–17·6] of all male deaths in 2019) followed by air pollution (ambient particulate matter and ambient ozone pollution, accounting for 3·75 million [3·31–4·24] deaths (12·2% [11·0–13·4] of all male deaths in 2019), and then high FPG (3·14 million [2·70–4·34] deaths, or 11·1% [8·9–14·1] of all male deaths in 2019).


Nuclear energy saves lives.

Prevented Mortality and Greenhouse Gas Emissions from Historical and Projected Nuclear Power (Pushker A. Kharecha* and James E. Hansen Environ. Sci. Technol., 2013, 47 (9), pp 4889–4895)

I always invite antinukes to show, that in the 70 year history in which nuclear energy has been saving human lives, that nuclear operations have killed, including of course their penny ante obsessions with Chernobyl and Fukushima, as many people as will die today from air pollution, roughly, again, 19000 people. Only legitimate referenced scientific publications from the primary or secondary scientific literature can be accepted to address this claim, links to websites in the circle jerk of toxic antinuke ignorance promotion are not acceptable for this purpose.

Over the years, not one of these participants in the antinuke crimes against humanity has responded intelligently to this challenge.

Not once.

Nuclear energy doesn't need to be risk free to be vastly superior to all other forms of energy. It only needs to be vastly superior to everything else, which it is.

I wish you the happiest New Year.

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