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12. It's all always been a bullshit exercise by fossil fuel salespeople and salesbots to greenwash coal.
Sat Dec 30, 2023, 01:47 PM
Dec 2023

That is, at least, my opinion. I kind of regret recusing myself when I was serving on MIRT.

It's very clear, and very well known, with not too much digging, whence hydrogen comes, resulting in exergy destruction of already problematic dangerous fossil fuels.

A Giant Climate Lie: When they're selling hydrogen, what they're really selling is fossil fuels.

The repeated robotic Potemkin videos are part of the greenwash the dangerous coal dependency of hydrogen in China, and the dangerous natural gas dependency of hydrogen elsewhere.

The goal is to sell coal and gas by rebranding them as "green" hydrogen," albeit, again, with exergy destruction and therefore environmental destruction. The pitch is assisted by the commonly held belief in this lie, that hydrogen is somehow magically "green," but the fact is that it takes about 20 EJ of energy, which is overwhelmingly dirty to make 10 EJ of hydrogen, were it used, stupidly and destructively, as a fuel rather than being used as it is overwhelmingly used, as a synthetic tool for industrial products, chiefly ammonia, on which, quite frankly and unavoidably, the world food supply for 8 billion people depends.

Facts matter.

It's kind of slick operation here, and a slick operation elsewhere, just skirting, here, under the DU rules for not engaging in commercial promotions, although what is being promoted is the general fossil fuel industry and not necessarily a specific fossil fuel company; perhaps its funded by a corporate consortium.

The salespeople and the salesbot - which is sometimes managed by a human logging into its account to foil the Turing test - can be recognized by having no other interest in promoting the lie that hydrogen is "green," no personal interests, no political interests, and no serious environmental interests. It's the same damn promotional videos again and again and again, all them, of course, dishonest in nature.

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