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jody

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13. "unproven and unprovable belief system" OK but do educators have a "proven system"?

Reply to kwassa (Reply #12)

Wed Sep 19, 2012, 01:10 AM

Sep 2012

We've spent billions of dollars on Head Start and didn't the Head Start Impact Study conclude there were no proven benefits on academic scores?

Statistics record 63,329 doctorates in education were awarded during the past decade, I assume each requiring a dissertation.

People like me who are not K-12 educators expect those who do research in education to find ways to improve performance.

I support spending billions or whatever it takes to improve education but IMO the federal government has not succeeded nor does it promise success.

Why hasn't anyone found ways to improve science and math scores and other subject scores?

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Bill Cosby signs on with 'students first' [View all] HiPointDem Sep 2012 OP

Do you blame Michelle Rhee for the black-white achievement gap? What would you have done if you had jody Sep 2012 #1

I think the OP's words are... YvonneCa Sep 2012 #2

I understand but I posed a question to the OP author. nt jody Sep 2012 #3

This message was self-deleted by its author mbperrin Sep 2012 #4

Thanks for your recommendation. Looks like Payne is a controversial figure. Don't have time to jody Sep 2012 #5

This message was self-deleted by its author mbperrin Sep 2012 #7

Thanks but, I still don’t understand why Payne’s process is better than current methods. jody Sep 2012 #8

This message was self-deleted by its author mbperrin Sep 2012 #9

Thanks for your comments. I'm disappointed you were not able to provide facts to support your belief jody Sep 2012 #10

You know what? I admit it. Nothing can be done to teach these kids mbperrin Sep 2012 #11

Payne doesn't have any teaching methods. proud2BlibKansan Sep 2012 #22

If political candidates ask for money to improve education, then they need to answer the two jody Sep 2012 #24

The problem is poverty proud2BlibKansan Sep 2012 #25

Thanks. I understand "The problem is poverty" to mean test scores will improve if poverty declines. jody Sep 2012 #26

This is about so much more than test scores. proud2BlibKansan Sep 2012 #27

OK "much more than test scores" but IMO most voters believe the mission of a school is to teach jody Sep 2012 #28

here's what she did to close that gap: HiPointDem Sep 2012 #6

What an absurd response. kwassa Sep 2012 #12

"unproven and unprovable belief system" OK but do educators have a "proven system"? jody Sep 2012 #13

"Middle-class American students... rank at the top of the world on international tests" HiPointDem Sep 2012 #14

Thanks. If "Middle-class American students who attend well-funded schools rank at the top of the jody Sep 2012 #15

the causal agent is class. HiPointDem Sep 2012 #16

If you are correct, then how can spending more money on education help those in the lower income jody Sep 2012 #17

It won't close the gap as so many of the factors involved are outside the control of schools. HiPointDem Sep 2012 #18

I got lost between your statement "the causal agent is class" and your argument for spending more jody Sep 2012 #19

perhaps you got lost so badly that you didn't read my post. i won't be responding to you further HiPointDem Sep 2012 #20

Have a great evening. nt jody Sep 2012 #21

He's been off the edge for while now. proud2BlibKansan Sep 2012 #23