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paleotn

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7. This is a poor, stupid excuse. Most struggled to hire employees BEFORE the pandemic.

Fri Dec 24, 2021, 10:02 AM

Dec 2021

Labor markets were extremely tight and unemployment rates across most of the country were minuscule before the pandemic. Certainly in historical terms. Seasonally adjusted 3.5% nationally BEFORE the pandemic. Well below the 4.4 to 4.5% just prior to the great recession. This isn't surprising or unforeseen.

https://www.bls.gov/charts/employment-situation/civilian-unemployment-rate.htm#:~:text=undefined,Oct%202016%3A%204.9%25

The US population is aging, so the workforce isn't keeping up with economic growth. Hasn't been for some time and will continue to age faster in the future. Simple solution to this problem. Immigration! We need them just as much as they need us. In my mind, logical, sensible immigration reform has got to get done. Unless we want to end up in Japan's black hole of stagnation, it has to get done.

https://www.urban.org/policy-centers/cross-center-initiatives/program-retirement-policy/projects/data-warehouse/what-future-holds/us-population-aging

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Monsters: Those "Nobody Wants to Work" Signs [View all] douglas9 Dec 2021 OP

And the real kicker is while they want 30 hours Phoenix61 Dec 2021 #1

And from week to week, which 30 hours you work can change...nt Wounded Bear Dec 2021 #13

Yup. 2 on one off my routes. AllyCat Dec 2021 #2

They were the first to fire workers when things got tough last year IronLionZion Dec 2021 #3

Workers want living wages, respectful working conditions, and real healthcare for their families. Magoo48 Dec 2021 #4

Healthy working conditions too... Captain Zero Dec 2021 #50

Absolutely, you're so right Captain Zero. Magoo48 Dec 2021 #64

And why should we, the public, continue to subsidize crap bosses' businesses with our tips? Mr. Ected Dec 2021 #5

Many countries don't have this problem IronLionZion Dec 2021 #6

Don't forget no paid sick leave in America...Covid probably found that to it's liking. Alexander Of Assyria Dec 2021 #19

European wait staffs love getting American tourists as guests Mr. Ected Dec 2021 #21

HEAR HEAR! (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Dec 2021 #24

I totally agree! paleotn Dec 2021 #10

The last restaurant True Blue American Dec 2021 #11

Yes, most people like to work for well run, respectful, safe, good paying businesses. Magoo48 Dec 2021 #66

This is a poor, stupid excuse. Most struggled to hire employees BEFORE the pandemic. paleotn Dec 2021 #7

Yes the population is aging, but many people ARE quitting because of working conditions pecosbob Dec 2021 #45

No one wants to work for crappy wages and no benefits Historic NY Dec 2021 #8

Those signs keep me out of that business Horse with no Name Dec 2021 #9

Millions of baby boomers took early retirement. True Blue American Dec 2021 #12

Yup. 10K Baby Boomers have been turning 65 PER DAY TexasBushwhacker Dec 2021 #40

If we can't provide safe working conditions for teachers, teachers ought not teach until we can. Magoo48 Dec 2021 #65

Those attitudes are indeed sickening! Buckeye_Democrat Dec 2021 #14

Nobody wants to work... PTWB Dec 2021 #15

Fifty Six years ago. I was stationed near Myrtle BEACH. They enforced the NO shirt,shoes No SERVES. usaf-vet Dec 2021 #16

Exactly! OldBaldy1701E Dec 2021 #25

Yes. You? usaf-vet Dec 2021 #26

I was a reservist and was in and out of Pope. OldBaldy1701E Dec 2021 #27

Bragg was a very busy base when I was at Shaw. Vietnam usaf-vet Dec 2021 #28

Did you ever have to tell people about that insane road outside of Bragg OldBaldy1701E Dec 2021 #29

Honestly I'll bet i didn't spend 5 mins at that gate before the rocket ship north picked me up. usaf-vet Dec 2021 #31

Some big chains are actually cutting their budget in hours allowed kellytore Dec 2021 #17

Serfin' U.S.A. (nt) Pinback Dec 2021 #18

Ditto. Brent Terhune, comedy man.. appalachiablue Dec 2021 #35

Who coined that term? It's fabulous...I love it. pecosbob Dec 2021 #46

Ha! I thought I made it up, Pinback Dec 2021 #56

Bravo pecosbob Dec 2021 #59

Nice! Pinback Dec 2021 #63

Before all the "Nobody wants to work anymore" crap Ohioboy Dec 2021 #20

I recall UPS once making a large portion of their workforce part-timers to avoid paying benefits pecosbob Dec 2021 #47

So, even if I'm a heartless bastard who doesn't give a rat's ass... Girard442 Dec 2021 #22

McDonalds is non functional in some locations. Jon King Dec 2021 #23

McDonald here has a sign out front "Hiring NOW up $18.00 / hour. I think to stay legal.... usaf-vet Dec 2021 #32

I worked as a bus-boy, dish-washer and gas-jockey at age 13 in Texas pecosbob Dec 2021 #48

At 14 it was working in a newspaper circulation department. Wrapping packs of paper to truckout to.. usaf-vet Dec 2021 #58

Nobody wants to work ... for greedy assholes! Zen Democrat Dec 2021 #30

Exactly, Magoo48 Dec 2021 #67

'It's a pyramid scheme of dirty jobs/who's cbabe Dec 2021 #33

Same Folks Who Complain Schools Are Remote And They Can't Work modrepub Dec 2021 #34

I never wanted to work in my life. Mr.Bill Dec 2021 #36

Yup. Been there, done that a lifetime ago. Joinfortmill Dec 2021 #37

*** soldierant Dec 2021 #38

↑ quaint Dec 2021 #39

I'll be cribbing this... pecosbob Dec 2021 #49

You know, yesterday, my wife and I went into a Kroger store. PatrickforB Dec 2021 #41

Third largest retailer in America... pecosbob Dec 2021 #51

Kroger has a Union. True Blue American Dec 2021 #62

One of our local restaurants said it was staff shortage...they were flat out lying. NullTuples Dec 2021 #42

The owners don't seem to make the connection AleksS Dec 2021 #43

And the owners usually come off as the "Free Market" sort in other times... NullTuples Dec 2021 #44

Personally I quit after five years of retail when I was assaulted for the third time pecosbob Dec 2021 #52

If that's the case, we're not obligated to keep them in business. Crowman2009 Dec 2021 #53

It's called upward mobility. Crowman2009 Dec 2021 #54

The signs do not tell the rest of the story. keithbvadu2 Dec 2021 #55

and is the owner deliberately paying low wages to pay for expensive toys/vacations? Crowman2009 Dec 2021 #60

When labor is worth more keithbvadu2 Dec 2021 #57

I'd like to know TheFarseer Dec 2021 #61