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Wiz Imp

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10. His larger point is good, but his claim that a million jobs
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 06:17 PM
Dec 11

have disappeared from the American job markett is FALSE.

He's referring to this:
https://www.challengergray.com/blog/challenger-report-71321-job-cuts-on-restructurings-closings-economy/#:~:text=NOVEMBER%20CUTS%20FALL%20FROM%20OCTOBER,companies'%20fiscal%20year%2Dends.

Through November, employers have announced 1,170,821 job cuts, an increase of 54% from the 761,358 announced in the first eleven months of last year. Year-to-date job cuts are at the highest level since 2020 when 2,227,725 cuts were announced through November. It is the sixth time since 1993 that job cuts through November have surpassed 1.1 million.


But thaat report does not say what he purports it to say. The Challenger report usually carries relatively little weight among economists because it only tracks publicly announced job cuts, most of which haven’t happened yet and some of which wil NEVER happen. While the announcements are made by U.S.-based firms, Challenger includes cuts to jobs overseas in its tally for multinational firms. The main reason it has gotten a little more attention recently is due to the delay in the BLS data due to the shutdown.

There is also this part of the Challenger report which is always ignored by the media and also contradicts this guy's claims.
HIRING PLANS IN 2025
Through November, U.S. employers have announced 497,151 planned hires, down 35% from the 761,954 announced at this point in 2024. It is the lowest year-to-date total since 2010, when 392,033 new hires were planned through November.


So the net drop in announce job cuts so far this year according to their report is actually less than 700,000.

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JD Vance wonders if you've even thanked Piggy? Blue Owl Dec 11 #1
He's out of it. Recent story about insulting a female journalist - piggy. appalachiablue Dec 11 #7
The Modern Great Depression Has Begun and It's Going To Get Worse appalachiablue Dec 11 #13
Doom Rant of the Day, FRIDAY, DEC. 12. 2025, The Great American Collapse of 2026 appalachiablue Dec 12 #21
But but but... the STOCK MARKET!!!!! Attilatheblond Dec 11 #2
The stock market distortion has to stop. This decline is serious, Americans need help, amen. appalachiablue Dec 11 #4
We are the job creators Grolph_ Dec 11 #6
Thank you, very well said. Age old inequality and hardship. appalachiablue Dec 11 #11
AI will eliminate millions of jobs. MontanaMama Dec 11 #3
Ik, a horror show just beginning. I fear for humans, esp the decent ones. Thanks for posting. appalachiablue Dec 11 #8
Powell said we aren't getting the...... Lovie777 Dec 11 #5
Nightmare... appalachiablue Dec 11 #9
Powell was referencing BLS numbers which have no connection to the Wiz Imp Dec 11 #12
Take a look at #15 if you like - Re 'guy in the video doesn't know what he's talking about'.. appalachiablue Dec 11 #16
His larger point is good, but his claim that a million jobs Wiz Imp Dec 11 #10
Someone needs to contact CBS News, Newsweek, The Hill and other US media appalachiablue Dec 11 #15
You can thank LilElf70 Dec 11 #14
In 6 months this will be viewed as the moderate job loss period bucolic_frolic Dec 11 #17
Scary and what help exists for displaced workers in this era. Nada much, on their own. UBI dunno. appalachiablue Dec 12 #20
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 11 #18
It depends on the "politician" doesn't it? Cha Dec 11 #19
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