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OldBaldy1701E

(6,832 posts)
21. Absolutely not
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 02:18 PM
Nov 2020

No, I do not think women should be under any curfew. I am sorry that you were assaulted. That should never have happened. However, I am reminded of the story of when my father showed up to our house with a used Honda XR-75 motorcycle. My mother was an emergency room nurse for her entire career. She all but pitched a fit. I finally had to say to her, "You realize that you are basing your reaction to the fact that, as a nurse, you see all the idiots who thought they could ride a bike, not the ones who actually can." My point is that, as you yourself pointed out, that you may be averse to any ideas other than more muscle on the street due to what happened. I am very leery of that thought process, and am even more leery of the idea that such thought processes could be influencing the final decisions as to whether or not we have more LEO out there. I think it is time we moved forward in our concepts of 'law' and 'law enforcement' as the concept we are now using is outdated and has been corrupted almost beyond repair. I feel that more 'community safety agents' who all have degrees with either a major or a minor in psychology, psychiatry, or sociology, as well as medical and legal knowledge, can then assess what is going on and decide if a cadre of troops is necessary. Also, police should have a similar level of education before they are ever allowed to deal with the public. I have also felt that any military personnel who want to go into civilian law enforcement should undergo at least five years of therapy before they are allowed to deal with the public. But, I digress.

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I was looking at moving to Minneapolis or Portland. Put a check next to Portland. LizBeth Nov 2020 #1
This is such a garbage article. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2020 #2
I think this is happening in other places too. LisaM Nov 2020 #3
It isn't their 'training'... OldBaldy1701E Nov 2020 #7
No, I don't want want more of "them". LisaM Nov 2020 #9
Absolutely not OldBaldy1701E Nov 2020 #21
No, you don't digress. I get it. LisaM Nov 2020 #22
Yes OldBaldy1701E Dec 2020 #23
And training would improve the profiling issue. LisaM Dec 2020 #24
Amen to that! (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Dec 2020 #26
My take on this is that there's a bunch of factors playing into it sboatcar Nov 2020 #4
I'm with you BainsBane Nov 2020 #6
Many police departments have bargaining units that are affiliated with the AFL-CIO. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2020 #8
I agree, but if you look at the minneapolis police union sboatcar Nov 2020 #10
Sure, Bob Kroll is an asshole. But he's an asshole running a white supremacist institution that has WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2020 #12
So do you have an ideas for how it can be fixed? sboatcar Nov 2020 #13
As a police abolitionist, I'm a fan of tearing it all down. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2020 #14
I think we need some level of law enforcement sboatcar Nov 2020 #15
A protection model thrives on an us/them mindset that results in uneven policing. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2020 #16
Not this one BainsBane Nov 2020 #18
I know. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2020 #19
The police are punishing us BainsBane Nov 2020 #5
Exactly! sboatcar Nov 2020 #11
Frey needs to go BainsBane Nov 2020 #17
I agree, I never liked him much, and he hasn't shown any decent leadership skills sboatcar Nov 2020 #20
I am a 911 dispatcher. I have worked with police for 20 years. the_sly_pig Dec 2020 #25
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