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TBF

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Sat Jan 23, 2016, 04:15 PM Jan 2016

Bile, Bullshit, and Bernie [View all]

Back in the 1990s, while the Clintons were supporting DOMA and Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell, that old dinosaur of a socialist helped lead the opposition to both policies on the grounds that they were anti-gay.


Sixteen notes on the presidential campaign.
by Corey Robin 1-23-16

This is becoming a straight-up rerun of the 1948 campaign against Henry Wallace. Except that Clinton is running well to the right of Truman and even, in some respects, Dewey. It seems as if Clinton is campaigning for the vote of my Grandpa Nat. There’s only one problem with this strategy: he’s been dead for nearly a quarter-century.

As was true of McCarthyism, it’s not really Sanders’s communism or his socialism that has got today’s McCarthyites in the Democratic Party worried; it’s actually his liberalism. As this article in the Times makes clear:

Some third party will say, ‘This is what the first ad of the general election is going to look like,’” said James Carville, the longtime Clinton adviser, envisioning a commercial savaging Mr. Sanders for supporting tax increases and single-payer health care. “Once you get the nomination, they are not going to play nice.” . . .

A Sanders-led ticket generates two sets of fears among Clinton supporters: that other Democratic candidates could be linked to his staunchly liberal views, particularly his call to raise taxes, even on middle-class families, to help finance his universal health care plan; and that more mainstream Democrats would have to answer to voters uneasy about what it means to be a European-style social democrat.

Raising taxes to pay for popular social programs: that used to be the bread and butter of the Democratic Party liberalism. Now it’s socialism. And that — now it’s socialism — used to be the bread and butter of Republican Party revanchism. Now it’s Democratic Party liberalism ...

Much more here: https://www.jacobinmag.com/2016/01/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-democratic-primary-president-caucus/

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Kickin' Faux pas Jan 2016 #1
can these idiots be any more wrong? Its 2016 not 1990 roguevalley Jan 2016 #2
Recommended. guillaumeb Jan 2016 #3
"Third Way is a one way to the third world." Hear, hear. forest444 Jan 2016 #5
Great point also. And, even closer to the US, guillaumeb Jan 2016 #6
Canada has become forest444 Jan 2016 #7
And, with the right level of leadership and citizen involvement, guillaumeb Jan 2016 #8
That's exactly what Ike tried to warn us about. forest444 Jan 2016 #9
Yup. Billionaires and potentates hifiguy Jan 2016 #10
Or a 21st Century plantation economy. guillaumeb Jan 2016 #17
Not to mention the capital gains taxes TBF Jan 2016 #13
And the fiction that is carried interest. guillaumeb Jan 2016 #16
Kicked and recommended. Duval Jan 2016 #4
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #11
K & R! SoapBox Jan 2016 #12
K&R jwirr Jan 2016 #14
K&R Paka Jan 2016 #15
excellent op and thread comments! hopemountain Jan 2016 #18
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