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Aristus

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75. I couldn't tell if this was supposed to be satirical or not.
Fri Apr 3, 2026, 05:51 PM
19 hrs ago

I read the replies. It looks sincere. And I disagree.

I will admit Shakespeare is often taught in the wrong way, and can be confusing to young kids. I say save the literary study for later, and let kids be entertained by it. I had sincere, deeply devoted teachers unintentionally making Shakespeare painfully boring because they thought it was supposed to be studied instead of enjoyed.

Then a bunch of us rambunctious kids from English class had an opportunity to see “The Merry Wives Of Windsor” at the Seattle Rep. No lectures, no subtitles or footnotes, no study. And we loved it! We laughed uncontrollably the whole way through. Sure, some of the language we didn’t quite get. But skilled actors performing naturalistically make Shakespeare comprehensible to the layman. It was a wonderful introduction to Shakespeare as it was meant to be experienced.

The same thing happened a few years later when, on the suggestion of a fellow soldier, a bunch of dumb-ass tankers sat down to watch Kenneth Branagh’s “Henry V”. Just like the kids above, we were entranced by the film, and had no trouble understanding what was going on. The fact that it was about war certainly kept our attention.

So, I don’t agree. Not only should we teach kids Shakespeare, I think the earlier we start, the better. Teachers have suggested fourth grade as a starting point; kids that age are already learning new words all the time; adding Tudor English won’t even be a speed bump.

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Shakespeare's themes are timeless. Unless this is an April Fool's prank, I find it ridiculous. hlthe2b Wednesday #1
I'm sincere GreatGazoo Wednesday #4
What total BS. Just like all but claiming the UK has no tanks but only royal horses hlthe2b Wednesday #7
I have said nice things too about the UK GreatGazoo Wednesday #21
Then you haven't read my post(s) hlthe2b Wednesday #22
Um GreatGazoo Thursday #37
Once again, you have NOT read (or at least comprehended) my posts that do counter you. hlthe2b Thursday #39
Nonsense. Reasons why Shakespeare SHOULD continue to be taught in schools. wnylib Wednesday #18
Thanks for your well reasoned response GreatGazoo Wednesday #23
I was not saying that Shakespeare's plays are wnylib Wednesday #27
I find that era fascinating GreatGazoo Wednesday #32
That "tomorrow" quote from Macbeth is one that I've memorized. wnylib Wednesday #35
My car broke down near Mechanicsville (appropriate name) CA GreatGazoo Thursday #38
Popular quote. wnylib Yesterday #60
This message was self-deleted by its author NNadir Yesterday #61
Then you are rather an idiot, good sir, Jilly_in_VA 19 hrs ago #79
The trolliest trolls are the trolls A-Schwarzenegger 18 hrs ago #91
Remind us of anyone in the here and now? Mme. Defarge Wednesday #9
Guillotine! Guillotine! MyOwnPeace Wednesday #31
So many shrouds Mme. Defarge Wednesday #33
I was one of the 2 kids..... MyOwnPeace Wednesday #34
Semi agreeable. It would close off connections with cachukis Wednesday #2
We'll, as the old joke goes... perfessor Wednesday #3
Or Cunk's line: GreatGazoo Wednesday #8
Yeah! "To bee or not to bee" was first said by an apiarist! Wonder Why Wednesday #11
I note your earlier post is asserting UK has 501 royal horses & only 334 tanks. (eyeroll) hlthe2b Wednesday #5
Nix on "Streetcar". Never understood why that piece of crap is considered art. eppur_se_muova Wednesday #6
I finally saw 'Glass Menagerie' last year GreatGazoo Wednesday #12
Tennesse Williams' voice was eloquent and urgent. CTyankee Thursday #41
The fact they may not understand it is the reason we have schools... appmanga 18 hrs ago #88
Thank you! Jilly_in_VA 19 hrs ago #81
Agree with you MorbidButterflyTat 15 hrs ago #95
Exactly! Throw some deeply damaged, disturbed individuals together to see how, and how much, they can damage each other. eppur_se_muova 15 hrs ago #97
Yes MorbidButterflyTat 44 min ago #99
When I was in seventh grade, I read through all of the Shakespeare comedies. I loved them. Walleye Wednesday #10
How did you feel about having to sit through them GreatGazoo Wednesday #13
I saw a magnificent stage performance of Macbeth wnylib Wednesday #20
Not A Fan ProfessorGAC Wednesday #14
All the titles from 6, except the angry men were studied between jr high and high school questionseverything 19 hrs ago #78
There is one for today "King Leer"[sic] Wonder Why Wednesday #15
You're not considering the historical significance... Rizen Wednesday #16
Didn't mention it but yes Shakespeare is printed at roughly the same time GreatGazoo Wednesday #25
I love the King James Version of the Bible. My father's Masonic Bible is a treasure I handed down to my son. CTyankee Thursday #42
Love Shakespeare. Always have, since first reading his plays in 6th grade. Years ago, two highplainsdem Wednesday #17
You forgot the sarcasm tag. malthaussen Wednesday #19
I listed five plays from the 20th century GreatGazoo Wednesday #28
You must be fun at Shakespeare parties. A-Schwarzenegger Wednesday #24
Get me to a nunnery! GreatGazoo Wednesday #30
Did Timothy Chalamet post this? Sneederbunk Wednesday #26
Ohhh. GreatGazoo Wednesday #29
When I still lived in Louisville, Bayard Wednesday #36
Anti-intellectualism at its finest. Coventina Thursday #40
Is the grammar of this sentence correct? GreatGazoo Thursday #44
By that logic, we shouldn't study art or music of the past either. Coventina Thursday #45
Music is subjective. Grammar isn't. GreatGazoo Thursday #47
Shakespeare has never been taught as "proper grammar." That notion is silly. Coventina Thursday #49
"greatest writer" implies that the grammar is as good as it gets GreatGazoo Yesterday #64
It implies no such thing. Please cite scholars who claim this. Coventina Yesterday #65
If you insist GreatGazoo 20 hrs ago #72
Both of those links are not actual support of your argument. Coventina 18 hrs ago #85
Can you not see or feel A-Schwarzenegger Thursday #48
Yes - I love that line GreatGazoo Thursday #50
Those arent errors. A-Schwarzenegger Thursday #51
We can't know what the author intended because they were deceased when The Tempest GreatGazoo Yesterday #63
Curious, snot 22 hrs ago #70
"On" for "of" GreatGazoo 20 hrs ago #73
Literature is not required to follow the rules of grammar FSogol 19 hrs ago #80
You A-Schwarzenegger 16 hrs ago #94
Or, MorbidButterflyTat 15 hrs ago #96
I fear we are not taking earnestly enough A-Schwarzenegger 14 hrs ago #98
... Xavier Breath Thursday #43
Can anyone make sense of this? GreatGazoo Thursday #46
This is bullshit. Maybe modern high school students could handle it just fine Ocelot II Thursday #52
Bach is perfect GreatGazoo Thursday #56
Omigawd YES! snot 21 hrs ago #71
I've always loved Shakespeare. I took Shakespeare in my college English Dept. and acted in Twelfth Night... wcmagumba Thursday #53
I will take Shakespeare any day over some of the other dreck we read in high school. 3catwoman3 Thursday #54
I had a personal hatred for Shirley Jackson and Flannery O'Connor Coventina Thursday #55
I found many of the 19th century English novels in secondary school canon boring Ilikepurple Thursday #57
One big problem with writing at that time is that writers were paid by length. Coventina Thursday #58
Most of them were, except for one Jilly_in_VA 18 hrs ago #86
I had a hard time getting into A Tale of Two Cities and haven't revisited it as I have other 19th century novels. Ilikepurple 17 hrs ago #92
I'm right with you there with the Russian literature JoseBalow 17 hrs ago #93
None of the plays you listed in number one would be here were it not for Shakespeare. OldBaldy1701E Thursday #59
Yeah, let's do away with beauty. It's trivial. Video games on cellphones are far more relevant to modern life. NNadir Yesterday #62
Sounds serious Torchlight Yesterday #66
Now do "Beowulf." Iggo Yesterday #67
Totally disagree, and snot 22 hrs ago #68
You make your case well GreatGazoo 19 hrs ago #74
Ugh. Our Town. In the top ten of the most boring plays ever written. mwmisses4289 22 hrs ago #69
Thank you, I DETEST "Our Town" Jilly_in_VA 18 hrs ago #89
I couldn't tell if this was supposed to be satirical or not. Aristus 19 hrs ago #75
There is a reason why Shakespeare's plays have endured Zorro 19 hrs ago #76
My high school sure did Jilly_in_VA 18 hrs ago #84
You must have attended a very progressive high school Zorro 18 hrs ago #87
I rather think not Jilly_in_VA 18 hrs ago #90
"4. The subject matter is elitist and no longer relevant. " DBoon 19 hrs ago #77
Totally disagree ABC123Easy 18 hrs ago #82
I view teaching Shakespeare the same way I view teaching poetry. walkingman 18 hrs ago #83
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