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59. None of the plays you listed in number one would be here were it not for Shakespeare.

Thu Apr 2, 2026, 05:57 PM

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And, just as it is not a good idea to ignore the past the it comes to politics, science, or medicine, it is not a good idea to ignore the literature and artistic methodologies that created the literature and methods we use today.

Try reading some science fiction if you would like to learn about what can happen to civilizations that forget their histories and/or mythologies.

It never ends well for them. Ever.

Of course, I had read most of the main plays by the time I was twelve. I love Shakespeare.

(English nerd here.).

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5 Reasons Why Shakespeare Should Not Be Required in Schools [View all] GreatGazoo Wednesday OP

Shakespeare's themes are timeless. Unless this is an April Fool's prank, I find it ridiculous. hlthe2b Wednesday #1

I'm sincere GreatGazoo Wednesday #4

What total BS. Just like all but claiming the UK has no tanks but only royal horses hlthe2b Wednesday #7

I have said nice things too about the UK GreatGazoo Wednesday #21

Then you haven't read my post(s) hlthe2b Wednesday #22

Um GreatGazoo Thursday #37

Once again, you have NOT read (or at least comprehended) my posts that do counter you. hlthe2b Thursday #39

Nonsense. Reasons why Shakespeare SHOULD continue to be taught in schools. wnylib Wednesday #18

Thanks for your well reasoned response GreatGazoo Wednesday #23

I was not saying that Shakespeare's plays are wnylib Wednesday #27

I find that era fascinating GreatGazoo Wednesday #32

That "tomorrow" quote from Macbeth is one that I've memorized. wnylib Wednesday #35

My car broke down near Mechanicsville (appropriate name) CA GreatGazoo Thursday #38

Popular quote. wnylib 23 hrs ago #60

This message was self-deleted by its author NNadir 22 hrs ago #61

Then you are rather an idiot, good sir, Jilly_in_VA 6 hrs ago #79

The trolliest trolls are the trolls A-Schwarzenegger 5 hrs ago #91

Remind us of anyone in the here and now? Mme. Defarge Wednesday #9

Guillotine! Guillotine! MyOwnPeace Wednesday #31

So many shrouds Mme. Defarge Wednesday #33

I was one of the 2 kids..... MyOwnPeace Wednesday #34

Semi agreeable. It would close off connections with cachukis Wednesday #2

We'll, as the old joke goes... perfessor Wednesday #3

Or Cunk's line: GreatGazoo Wednesday #8

Yeah! "To bee or not to bee" was first said by an apiarist! Wonder Why Wednesday #11

I note your earlier post is asserting UK has 501 royal horses & only 334 tanks. (eyeroll) hlthe2b Wednesday #5

Nix on "Streetcar". Never understood why that piece of crap is considered art. eppur_se_muova Wednesday #6

I finally saw 'Glass Menagerie' last year GreatGazoo Wednesday #12

Tennesse Williams' voice was eloquent and urgent. CTyankee Thursday #41

The fact they may not understand it is the reason we have schools... appmanga 5 hrs ago #88

Thank you! Jilly_in_VA 6 hrs ago #81

Agree with you MorbidButterflyTat 2 hrs ago #95

Exactly! Throw some deeply damaged, disturbed individuals together to see how, and how much, they can damage each other. eppur_se_muova 2 hrs ago #97

When I was in seventh grade, I read through all of the Shakespeare comedies. I loved them. Walleye Wednesday #10

How did you feel about having to sit through them GreatGazoo Wednesday #13

I saw a magnificent stage performance of Macbeth wnylib Wednesday #20

Not A Fan ProfessorGAC Wednesday #14

All the titles from 6, except the angry men were studied between jr high and high school questionseverything 6 hrs ago #78

There is one for today "King Leer"[sic] Wonder Why Wednesday #15

You're not considering the historical significance... Rizen Wednesday #16

Didn't mention it but yes Shakespeare is printed at roughly the same time GreatGazoo Wednesday #25

I love the King James Version of the Bible. My father's Masonic Bible is a treasure I handed down to my son. CTyankee Thursday #42

Love Shakespeare. Always have, since first reading his plays in 6th grade. Years ago, two highplainsdem Wednesday #17

You forgot the sarcasm tag. malthaussen Wednesday #19

I listed five plays from the 20th century GreatGazoo Wednesday #28

You must be fun at Shakespeare parties. A-Schwarzenegger Wednesday #24

Get me to a nunnery! GreatGazoo Wednesday #30

Did Timothy Chalamet post this? Sneederbunk Wednesday #26

Ohhh. GreatGazoo Wednesday #29

When I still lived in Louisville, Bayard Wednesday #36

Anti-intellectualism at its finest. Coventina Thursday #40

Is the grammar of this sentence correct? GreatGazoo Thursday #44

By that logic, we shouldn't study art or music of the past either. Coventina Thursday #45

Music is subjective. Grammar isn't. GreatGazoo Thursday #47

Shakespeare has never been taught as "proper grammar." That notion is silly. Coventina Thursday #49

"greatest writer" implies that the grammar is as good as it gets GreatGazoo 15 hrs ago #64

It implies no such thing. Please cite scholars who claim this. Coventina 11 hrs ago #65

If you insist GreatGazoo 7 hrs ago #72

Both of those links are not actual support of your argument. Coventina 5 hrs ago #85

Can you not see or feel A-Schwarzenegger Thursday #48

Yes - I love that line GreatGazoo Thursday #50

Those arent errors. A-Schwarzenegger Thursday #51

We can't know what the author intended because they were deceased when The Tempest GreatGazoo 16 hrs ago #63

Curious, snot 9 hrs ago #70

"On" for "of" GreatGazoo 7 hrs ago #73

Literature is not required to follow the rules of grammar FSogol 6 hrs ago #80

You A-Schwarzenegger 3 hrs ago #94

Or, MorbidButterflyTat 2 hrs ago #96

I fear we are not taking earnestly enough A-Schwarzenegger 1 hr ago #98

... Xavier Breath Thursday #43

Can anyone make sense of this? GreatGazoo Thursday #46

This is bullshit. Maybe modern high school students could handle it just fine Ocelot II Thursday #52

Bach is perfect GreatGazoo Thursday #56

Omigawd YES! snot 8 hrs ago #71

I've always loved Shakespeare. I took Shakespeare in my college English Dept. and acted in Twelfth Night... wcmagumba Thursday #53

I will take Shakespeare any day over some of the other dreck we read in high school. 3catwoman3 Thursday #54

I had a personal hatred for Shirley Jackson and Flannery O'Connor Coventina Thursday #55

I found many of the 19th century English novels in secondary school canon boring Ilikepurple Thursday #57

One big problem with writing at that time is that writers were paid by length. Coventina Thursday #58

Most of them were, except for one Jilly_in_VA 5 hrs ago #86

I had a hard time getting into A Tale of Two Cities and haven't revisited it as I have other 19th century novels. Ilikepurple 4 hrs ago #92

I'm right with you there with the Russian literature JoseBalow 4 hrs ago #93

None of the plays you listed in number one would be here were it not for Shakespeare. OldBaldy1701E Thursday #59

Yeah, let's do away with beauty. It's trivial. Video games on cellphones are far more relevant to modern life. NNadir 22 hrs ago #62

Sounds serious Torchlight 11 hrs ago #66

Now do "Beowulf." Iggo 11 hrs ago #67

Totally disagree, and snot 9 hrs ago #68

You make your case well GreatGazoo 6 hrs ago #74

Ugh. Our Town. In the top ten of the most boring plays ever written. mwmisses4289 9 hrs ago #69

Thank you, I DETEST "Our Town" Jilly_in_VA 5 hrs ago #89

I couldn't tell if this was supposed to be satirical or not. Aristus 6 hrs ago #75

There is a reason why Shakespeare's plays have endured Zorro 6 hrs ago #76

My high school sure did Jilly_in_VA 6 hrs ago #84

You must have attended a very progressive high school Zorro 5 hrs ago #87

I rather think not Jilly_in_VA 5 hrs ago #90

"4. The subject matter is elitist and no longer relevant. " DBoon 6 hrs ago #77

Totally disagree ABC123Easy 6 hrs ago #82

I view teaching Shakespeare the same way I view teaching poetry. walkingman 6 hrs ago #83