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GreatGazoo

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46. Can anyone make sense of this?
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 02:57 PM
Thursday
MACBETH Prithee, peace:
I dare do all that may become a man;
Who dares do more is none.

LADY MACBETH What beast was't, then,
That made you break this enterprise to me?
When you durst do it, then you were a man;
And, to be more than what you were, you would
Be so much more the man. Nor time nor place
Did then adhere, and yet you would make both:
They have made themselves, and that their fitness now
Does unmake you.


No. And yet we should force it on high school students? Ben Jonson (1572-1637), editor of the First Folio, complained that it was incomprehensible so what chance do modern high school students have with it.

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Shakespeare's themes are timeless. Unless this is an April Fool's prank, I find it ridiculous. hlthe2b Wednesday #1
I'm sincere GreatGazoo Wednesday #4
What total BS. Just like all but claiming the UK has no tanks but only royal horses hlthe2b Wednesday #7
I have said nice things too about the UK GreatGazoo Wednesday #21
Then you haven't read my post(s) hlthe2b Wednesday #22
Um GreatGazoo Thursday #37
Once again, you have NOT read (or at least comprehended) my posts that do counter you. hlthe2b Thursday #39
Nonsense. Reasons why Shakespeare SHOULD continue to be taught in schools. wnylib Wednesday #18
Thanks for your well reasoned response GreatGazoo Wednesday #23
I was not saying that Shakespeare's plays are wnylib Wednesday #27
I find that era fascinating GreatGazoo Wednesday #32
That "tomorrow" quote from Macbeth is one that I've memorized. wnylib Wednesday #35
My car broke down near Mechanicsville (appropriate name) CA GreatGazoo Thursday #38
Popular quote. wnylib Yesterday #60
This message was self-deleted by its author NNadir Yesterday #61
Then you are rather an idiot, good sir, Jilly_in_VA 15 hrs ago #79
The trolliest trolls are the trolls A-Schwarzenegger 13 hrs ago #91
Remind us of anyone in the here and now? Mme. Defarge Wednesday #9
Guillotine! Guillotine! MyOwnPeace Wednesday #31
So many shrouds Mme. Defarge Wednesday #33
I was one of the 2 kids..... MyOwnPeace Wednesday #34
Semi agreeable. It would close off connections with cachukis Wednesday #2
We'll, as the old joke goes... perfessor Wednesday #3
Or Cunk's line: GreatGazoo Wednesday #8
Yeah! "To bee or not to bee" was first said by an apiarist! Wonder Why Wednesday #11
I note your earlier post is asserting UK has 501 royal horses & only 334 tanks. (eyeroll) hlthe2b Wednesday #5
Nix on "Streetcar". Never understood why that piece of crap is considered art. eppur_se_muova Wednesday #6
I finally saw 'Glass Menagerie' last year GreatGazoo Wednesday #12
Tennesse Williams' voice was eloquent and urgent. CTyankee Thursday #41
The fact they may not understand it is the reason we have schools... appmanga 14 hrs ago #88
Thank you! Jilly_in_VA 15 hrs ago #81
Agree with you MorbidButterflyTat 11 hrs ago #95
Exactly! Throw some deeply damaged, disturbed individuals together to see how, and how much, they can damage each other. eppur_se_muova 11 hrs ago #97
When I was in seventh grade, I read through all of the Shakespeare comedies. I loved them. Walleye Wednesday #10
How did you feel about having to sit through them GreatGazoo Wednesday #13
I saw a magnificent stage performance of Macbeth wnylib Wednesday #20
Not A Fan ProfessorGAC Wednesday #14
All the titles from 6, except the angry men were studied between jr high and high school questionseverything 15 hrs ago #78
There is one for today "King Leer"[sic] Wonder Why Wednesday #15
You're not considering the historical significance... Rizen Wednesday #16
Didn't mention it but yes Shakespeare is printed at roughly the same time GreatGazoo Wednesday #25
I love the King James Version of the Bible. My father's Masonic Bible is a treasure I handed down to my son. CTyankee Thursday #42
Love Shakespeare. Always have, since first reading his plays in 6th grade. Years ago, two highplainsdem Wednesday #17
You forgot the sarcasm tag. malthaussen Wednesday #19
I listed five plays from the 20th century GreatGazoo Wednesday #28
You must be fun at Shakespeare parties. A-Schwarzenegger Wednesday #24
Get me to a nunnery! GreatGazoo Wednesday #30
Did Timothy Chalamet post this? Sneederbunk Wednesday #26
Ohhh. GreatGazoo Wednesday #29
When I still lived in Louisville, Bayard Wednesday #36
Anti-intellectualism at its finest. Coventina Thursday #40
Is the grammar of this sentence correct? GreatGazoo Thursday #44
By that logic, we shouldn't study art or music of the past either. Coventina Thursday #45
Music is subjective. Grammar isn't. GreatGazoo Thursday #47
Shakespeare has never been taught as "proper grammar." That notion is silly. Coventina Thursday #49
"greatest writer" implies that the grammar is as good as it gets GreatGazoo Yesterday #64
It implies no such thing. Please cite scholars who claim this. Coventina 20 hrs ago #65
If you insist GreatGazoo 16 hrs ago #72
Both of those links are not actual support of your argument. Coventina 14 hrs ago #85
Can you not see or feel A-Schwarzenegger Thursday #48
Yes - I love that line GreatGazoo Thursday #50
Those arent errors. A-Schwarzenegger Thursday #51
We can't know what the author intended because they were deceased when The Tempest GreatGazoo Yesterday #63
Curious, snot 18 hrs ago #70
"On" for "of" GreatGazoo 16 hrs ago #73
Literature is not required to follow the rules of grammar FSogol 15 hrs ago #80
You A-Schwarzenegger 12 hrs ago #94
Or, MorbidButterflyTat 11 hrs ago #96
I fear we are not taking earnestly enough A-Schwarzenegger 10 hrs ago #98
... Xavier Breath Thursday #43
Can anyone make sense of this? GreatGazoo Thursday #46
This is bullshit. Maybe modern high school students could handle it just fine Ocelot II Thursday #52
Bach is perfect GreatGazoo Thursday #56
Omigawd YES! snot 17 hrs ago #71
I've always loved Shakespeare. I took Shakespeare in my college English Dept. and acted in Twelfth Night... wcmagumba Thursday #53
I will take Shakespeare any day over some of the other dreck we read in high school. 3catwoman3 Thursday #54
I had a personal hatred for Shirley Jackson and Flannery O'Connor Coventina Thursday #55
I found many of the 19th century English novels in secondary school canon boring Ilikepurple Thursday #57
One big problem with writing at that time is that writers were paid by length. Coventina Thursday #58
Most of them were, except for one Jilly_in_VA 14 hrs ago #86
I had a hard time getting into A Tale of Two Cities and haven't revisited it as I have other 19th century novels. Ilikepurple 13 hrs ago #92
I'm right with you there with the Russian literature JoseBalow 13 hrs ago #93
None of the plays you listed in number one would be here were it not for Shakespeare. OldBaldy1701E Thursday #59
Yeah, let's do away with beauty. It's trivial. Video games on cellphones are far more relevant to modern life. NNadir Yesterday #62
Sounds serious Torchlight 20 hrs ago #66
Now do "Beowulf." Iggo 20 hrs ago #67
Totally disagree, and snot 18 hrs ago #68
You make your case well GreatGazoo 15 hrs ago #74
Ugh. Our Town. In the top ten of the most boring plays ever written. mwmisses4289 18 hrs ago #69
Thank you, I DETEST "Our Town" Jilly_in_VA 14 hrs ago #89
I couldn't tell if this was supposed to be satirical or not. Aristus 15 hrs ago #75
There is a reason why Shakespeare's plays have endured Zorro 15 hrs ago #76
My high school sure did Jilly_in_VA 14 hrs ago #84
You must have attended a very progressive high school Zorro 14 hrs ago #87
I rather think not Jilly_in_VA 14 hrs ago #90
"4. The subject matter is elitist and no longer relevant. " DBoon 15 hrs ago #77
Totally disagree ABC123Easy 14 hrs ago #82
I view teaching Shakespeare the same way I view teaching poetry. walkingman 14 hrs ago #83
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