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wnylib

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27. I was not saying that Shakespeare's plays are
Wed Apr 1, 2026, 09:16 PM
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historically accurate. Was not even referring to the history plays. I was referring to things like the language used and the customs portrayed, e. g. how personal feuds and grievances were avenged, belief in witchcraft (Macbeth) and ghosts (Hamlet).

Yes, I know that Shakespeare's plots were borrowed and rewritten from different times and places. I know that the historical plays had to conform to the Crown's views because Ellizabeth was a patron. But his ability to evoke emotion and to tell a story is good.

On grammar, Shakespeare was quite..um..."innovative" in his use of words, expressions, grammar, and in making up words. Consequently, his plays introduced meanings and expressions that have become commonplace and frequently quoted. His influence on the English language is tremendous.

I agree that Marlowe and Johnson were good, but believe that Shakespeare was better at portraying human nature and appealing across classes. But, I have to admit that I am more familiar with Shakespeare than with the other two.

I also love Shakespeare's sonnets. My favorite is "My mistress's eyes..." I don't remember the number of that sonnet. I love it for its humorous jabs at hyperbolic poets while conveying that sincerity of feeling is better than flowery fantasies.









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Shakespeare's themes are timeless. Unless this is an April Fool's prank, I find it ridiculous. hlthe2b Wednesday #1
I'm sincere GreatGazoo Wednesday #4
What total BS. Just like all but claiming the UK has no tanks but only royal horses hlthe2b Wednesday #7
I have said nice things too about the UK GreatGazoo Wednesday #21
Then you haven't read my post(s) hlthe2b Wednesday #22
Um GreatGazoo Yesterday #37
Once again, you have NOT read (or at least comprehended) my posts that do counter you. hlthe2b Yesterday #39
Nonsense. Reasons why Shakespeare SHOULD continue to be taught in schools. wnylib Wednesday #18
Thanks for your well reasoned response GreatGazoo Wednesday #23
I was not saying that Shakespeare's plays are wnylib Wednesday #27
I find that era fascinating GreatGazoo Wednesday #32
That "tomorrow" quote from Macbeth is one that I've memorized. wnylib Wednesday #35
My car broke down near Mechanicsville (appropriate name) CA GreatGazoo Yesterday #38
Popular quote. wnylib 12 hrs ago #60
This message was self-deleted by its author NNadir 11 hrs ago #61
Remind us of anyone in the here and now? Mme. Defarge Wednesday #9
Guillotine! Guillotine! MyOwnPeace Wednesday #31
So many shrouds Mme. Defarge Wednesday #33
I was one of the 2 kids..... MyOwnPeace Wednesday #34
Semi agreeable. It would close off connections with cachukis Wednesday #2
We'll, as the old joke goes... perfessor Wednesday #3
Or Cunk's line: GreatGazoo Wednesday #8
Yeah! "To bee or not to bee" was first said by an apiarist! Wonder Why Wednesday #11
I note your earlier post is asserting UK has 501 royal horses & only 334 tanks. (eyeroll) hlthe2b Wednesday #5
Nix on "Streetcar". Never understood why that piece of crap is considered art. eppur_se_muova Wednesday #6
I finally saw 'Glass Menagerie' last year GreatGazoo Wednesday #12
Tennesse Williams' voice was eloquent and urgent. CTyankee Yesterday #41
When I was in seventh grade, I read through all of the Shakespeare comedies. I loved them. Walleye Wednesday #10
How did you feel about having to sit through them GreatGazoo Wednesday #13
I saw a magnificent stage performance of Macbeth wnylib Wednesday #20
Not A Fan ProfessorGAC Wednesday #14
There is one for today "King Leer"[sic] Wonder Why Wednesday #15
You're not considering the historical significance... Rizen Wednesday #16
Didn't mention it but yes Shakespeare is printed at roughly the same time GreatGazoo Wednesday #25
I love the King James Version of the Bible. My father's Masonic Bible is a treasure I handed down to my son. CTyankee Yesterday #42
Love Shakespeare. Always have, since first reading his plays in 6th grade. Years ago, two highplainsdem Wednesday #17
You forgot the sarcasm tag. malthaussen Wednesday #19
I listed five plays from the 20th century GreatGazoo Wednesday #28
You must be fun at Shakespeare parties. A-Schwarzenegger Wednesday #24
Get me to a nunnery! GreatGazoo Wednesday #30
Did Timothy Chalamet post this? Sneederbunk Wednesday #26
Ohhh. GreatGazoo Wednesday #29
When I still lived in Louisville, Bayard Wednesday #36
Anti-intellectualism at its finest. Coventina Yesterday #40
Is the grammar of this sentence correct? GreatGazoo 23 hrs ago #44
By that logic, we shouldn't study art or music of the past either. Coventina 22 hrs ago #45
Music is subjective. Grammar isn't. GreatGazoo 22 hrs ago #47
Shakespeare has never been taught as "proper grammar." That notion is silly. Coventina 22 hrs ago #49
"greatest writer" implies that the grammar is as good as it gets GreatGazoo 4 hrs ago #64
It implies no such thing. Please cite scholars who claim this. Coventina 44 min ago #65
Can you not see or feel A-Schwarzenegger 22 hrs ago #48
Yes - I love that line GreatGazoo 22 hrs ago #50
Those arent errors. A-Schwarzenegger 22 hrs ago #51
We can't know what the author intended because they were deceased when The Tempest GreatGazoo 5 hrs ago #63
... Xavier Breath Yesterday #43
Can anyone make sense of this? GreatGazoo 22 hrs ago #46
This is bullshit. Maybe modern high school students could handle it just fine Ocelot II 21 hrs ago #52
Bach is perfect GreatGazoo 20 hrs ago #56
I've always loved Shakespeare. I took Shakespeare in my college English Dept. and acted in Twelfth Night... wcmagumba 21 hrs ago #53
I will take Shakespeare any day over some of the other dreck we read in high school. 3catwoman3 21 hrs ago #54
I had a personal hatred for Shirley Jackson and Flannery O'Connor Coventina 21 hrs ago #55
I found many of the 19th century English novels in secondary school canon boring Ilikepurple 20 hrs ago #57
One big problem with writing at that time is that writers were paid by length. Coventina 20 hrs ago #58
None of the plays you listed in number one would be here were it not for Shakespeare. OldBaldy1701E 19 hrs ago #59
Yeah, let's do away with beauty. It's trivial. Video games on cellphones are far more relevant to modern life. NNadir 11 hrs ago #62
Sounds serious Torchlight 28 min ago #66
Now do "Beowulf." Iggo 21 min ago #67
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