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GreatGazoo

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Wed Apr 1, 2026, 05:34 PM Wednesday

5 Reasons Why Shakespeare Should Not Be Required in Schools [View all]

5. The language is archaic and many meanings have changed in the 403 years since it was published. Like the French spoken in Quebec, the version of English used in Shakespeare is not modern. The Quebecois were isolated from the evolution of the French language for centuries and this produced not benefits for them. Forcing students to slog through an archaic version of English is appropriate for language and English majors but not for general education.

4. The subject matter is elitist and no longer relevant. "My kingdom for a horse" is not the kind of problem most students are facing today. Nor is having your mother marry your uncle after your uncle kills your father. Monarchy, royal successions, "gunpowder" plots have as much relevance today as alchemy and humorism. Shakespeare's audience and patron was Queen Elizabeth. Her priorities are quite different than anyone's today.

Worse, the nobles speak in iambic pentameter while the middle and lower class don't. The lower classes are made fun of and given derogatory names such as "Pompey Bum" and "Mistress Overdone".

3. It is terrible as drama. One actor shouts a long monologue while the rest hold a frozen expression of reaction. Completely unnatural. A stylized version of stage acting that is closer to a poetry reading than interactive drama. The length of many works suggests that the form we have was intended for reading. 'Hamlet' with over 30,000 words would be over 5 hours long if performed in its entirety. Today most of the plays are performed in heavily edited versions.

2. The music is long gone. Imagine trying to watch 'The Lion King' or 'Oklahoma' or 'Chicago' without the music! Yet we are supposed to pretend that people speaking lyrics with no musical backing is perfectly acceptable and normal.

1. There is plenty of far better material available now. Relevant. Thought-provoking. "12 Angry Men" "To Kill a Mockingbird" "A Raisin in the Sun" "Our Town" "Death of a Salesman" "The Glass Menagerie" "The Crucible" "Streetcar Named Desire" "Doubt"

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Shakespeare's themes are timeless. Unless this is an April Fool's prank, I find it ridiculous. hlthe2b Wednesday #1
I'm sincere GreatGazoo Wednesday #4
What total BS. Just like all but claiming the UK has no tanks but only royal horses hlthe2b Wednesday #7
I have said nice things too about the UK GreatGazoo Wednesday #21
Then you haven't read my post(s) hlthe2b Wednesday #22
Um GreatGazoo Thursday #37
Once again, you have NOT read (or at least comprehended) my posts that do counter you. hlthe2b Thursday #39
Nonsense. Reasons why Shakespeare SHOULD continue to be taught in schools. wnylib Wednesday #18
Thanks for your well reasoned response GreatGazoo Wednesday #23
I was not saying that Shakespeare's plays are wnylib Wednesday #27
I find that era fascinating GreatGazoo Wednesday #32
That "tomorrow" quote from Macbeth is one that I've memorized. wnylib Wednesday #35
My car broke down near Mechanicsville (appropriate name) CA GreatGazoo Thursday #38
Popular quote. wnylib Yesterday #60
This message was self-deleted by its author NNadir Yesterday #61
Then you are rather an idiot, good sir, Jilly_in_VA 12 hrs ago #79
The trolliest trolls are the trolls A-Schwarzenegger 10 hrs ago #91
Remind us of anyone in the here and now? Mme. Defarge Wednesday #9
Guillotine! Guillotine! MyOwnPeace Wednesday #31
So many shrouds Mme. Defarge Wednesday #33
I was one of the 2 kids..... MyOwnPeace Wednesday #34
Semi agreeable. It would close off connections with cachukis Wednesday #2
We'll, as the old joke goes... perfessor Wednesday #3
Or Cunk's line: GreatGazoo Wednesday #8
Yeah! "To bee or not to bee" was first said by an apiarist! Wonder Why Wednesday #11
I note your earlier post is asserting UK has 501 royal horses & only 334 tanks. (eyeroll) hlthe2b Wednesday #5
Nix on "Streetcar". Never understood why that piece of crap is considered art. eppur_se_muova Wednesday #6
I finally saw 'Glass Menagerie' last year GreatGazoo Wednesday #12
Tennesse Williams' voice was eloquent and urgent. CTyankee Thursday #41
The fact they may not understand it is the reason we have schools... appmanga 11 hrs ago #88
Thank you! Jilly_in_VA 12 hrs ago #81
Agree with you MorbidButterflyTat 8 hrs ago #95
Exactly! Throw some deeply damaged, disturbed individuals together to see how, and how much, they can damage each other. eppur_se_muova 8 hrs ago #97
When I was in seventh grade, I read through all of the Shakespeare comedies. I loved them. Walleye Wednesday #10
How did you feel about having to sit through them GreatGazoo Wednesday #13
I saw a magnificent stage performance of Macbeth wnylib Wednesday #20
Not A Fan ProfessorGAC Wednesday #14
All the titles from 6, except the angry men were studied between jr high and high school questionseverything 12 hrs ago #78
There is one for today "King Leer"[sic] Wonder Why Wednesday #15
You're not considering the historical significance... Rizen Wednesday #16
Didn't mention it but yes Shakespeare is printed at roughly the same time GreatGazoo Wednesday #25
I love the King James Version of the Bible. My father's Masonic Bible is a treasure I handed down to my son. CTyankee Thursday #42
Love Shakespeare. Always have, since first reading his plays in 6th grade. Years ago, two highplainsdem Wednesday #17
You forgot the sarcasm tag. malthaussen Wednesday #19
I listed five plays from the 20th century GreatGazoo Wednesday #28
You must be fun at Shakespeare parties. A-Schwarzenegger Wednesday #24
Get me to a nunnery! GreatGazoo Wednesday #30
Did Timothy Chalamet post this? Sneederbunk Wednesday #26
Ohhh. GreatGazoo Wednesday #29
When I still lived in Louisville, Bayard Wednesday #36
Anti-intellectualism at its finest. Coventina Thursday #40
Is the grammar of this sentence correct? GreatGazoo Thursday #44
By that logic, we shouldn't study art or music of the past either. Coventina Thursday #45
Music is subjective. Grammar isn't. GreatGazoo Thursday #47
Shakespeare has never been taught as "proper grammar." That notion is silly. Coventina Thursday #49
"greatest writer" implies that the grammar is as good as it gets GreatGazoo 21 hrs ago #64
It implies no such thing. Please cite scholars who claim this. Coventina 17 hrs ago #65
If you insist GreatGazoo 12 hrs ago #72
Both of those links are not actual support of your argument. Coventina 11 hrs ago #85
Can you not see or feel A-Schwarzenegger Thursday #48
Yes - I love that line GreatGazoo Thursday #50
Those arent errors. A-Schwarzenegger Thursday #51
We can't know what the author intended because they were deceased when The Tempest GreatGazoo 21 hrs ago #63
Curious, snot 15 hrs ago #70
"On" for "of" GreatGazoo 12 hrs ago #73
Literature is not required to follow the rules of grammar FSogol 12 hrs ago #80
You A-Schwarzenegger 9 hrs ago #94
Or, MorbidButterflyTat 8 hrs ago #96
I fear we are not taking earnestly enough A-Schwarzenegger 7 hrs ago #98
... Xavier Breath Thursday #43
Can anyone make sense of this? GreatGazoo Thursday #46
This is bullshit. Maybe modern high school students could handle it just fine Ocelot II Thursday #52
Bach is perfect GreatGazoo Thursday #56
Omigawd YES! snot 14 hrs ago #71
I've always loved Shakespeare. I took Shakespeare in my college English Dept. and acted in Twelfth Night... wcmagumba Thursday #53
I will take Shakespeare any day over some of the other dreck we read in high school. 3catwoman3 Thursday #54
I had a personal hatred for Shirley Jackson and Flannery O'Connor Coventina Thursday #55
I found many of the 19th century English novels in secondary school canon boring Ilikepurple Thursday #57
One big problem with writing at that time is that writers were paid by length. Coventina Thursday #58
Most of them were, except for one Jilly_in_VA 11 hrs ago #86
I had a hard time getting into A Tale of Two Cities and haven't revisited it as I have other 19th century novels. Ilikepurple 10 hrs ago #92
I'm right with you there with the Russian literature JoseBalow 10 hrs ago #93
None of the plays you listed in number one would be here were it not for Shakespeare. OldBaldy1701E Thursday #59
Yeah, let's do away with beauty. It's trivial. Video games on cellphones are far more relevant to modern life. NNadir Yesterday #62
Sounds serious Torchlight 17 hrs ago #66
Now do "Beowulf." Iggo 17 hrs ago #67
Totally disagree, and snot 15 hrs ago #68
You make your case well GreatGazoo 12 hrs ago #74
Ugh. Our Town. In the top ten of the most boring plays ever written. mwmisses4289 15 hrs ago #69
Thank you, I DETEST "Our Town" Jilly_in_VA 11 hrs ago #89
I couldn't tell if this was supposed to be satirical or not. Aristus 12 hrs ago #75
There is a reason why Shakespeare's plays have endured Zorro 12 hrs ago #76
My high school sure did Jilly_in_VA 11 hrs ago #84
You must have attended a very progressive high school Zorro 11 hrs ago #87
I rather think not Jilly_in_VA 10 hrs ago #90
"4. The subject matter is elitist and no longer relevant. " DBoon 12 hrs ago #77
Totally disagree ABC123Easy 11 hrs ago #82
I view teaching Shakespeare the same way I view teaching poetry. walkingman 11 hrs ago #83
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