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NNadir

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35. I really can't believe that people believe this sort of thing.
Fri Dec 26, 2025, 08:55 PM
Dec 26

The "shots" are vaccines, not treatments. If one already has Covid or the flu, vaccines are useless.

There are treatments for both flu and Covid but they are not injectable drugs.

Tamiflu (oseltamivir), Xofluza (baloxavir), Relenza (zanamivir), and Rapivab (peramivir)
for flu, Paxlovid for Covid are oral drugs.

It is true for retroviruses in particular with fast reproduction - and thus evolution - rates, resistant strains to vaccines develop quickly so the disease can still occur, generally in a milder form as the antibodies generated by B cells may have lower binding efficiency, but vaccines prevent disease, they do not cure it.

For treatments this can also occur. We saw this with the early protease inhibitors for AIDS, aspartyl proteases, p55 gag proteins, where resistance developed generally along single nucleotide polymorphisms (and on occasion, multiple nucleotide polymorphisms, for example the M46I/I47V/I50V mutations that showed resistance to Amprenavir).

This is not a place to spread misinformation about the difference between vaccines and treatments.

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Oh blech! I hope you feel better soon! CousinIT Dec 25 #1
A friend of mine Delarage Dec 25 #2
The actual problem with this year's flu shot is NOT that research was cut PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 25 #18
curious... Tetrachloride Dec 25 #21
But true, nonetheless. PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 25 #22
Good to know! Delarage Dec 25 #23
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I do wish that you will be able to enjoy at least the spirit of Christmas today. riversedge Dec 25 #3
Me too!! leftieNanner Dec 25 #4
Yikes. Bad timing for the illness, Jilly! LuckyCharms Dec 25 #5
Best recovery. cachukis Dec 25 #6
I missed all four Christmas parties of the groups I'm involved with The Blue Flower Dec 25 #7
The shots don't prevent COVID or flu, they just mitigate the disease. Best to test so you know what you have Blues Heron Dec 25 #8
Correct! biophile Dec 25 #11
No, it was designed to be a COVID vaccine. Vaccines don't prevent infection, it's not a protective bubble Blues Heron Dec 25 #16
I'm agreeing with you; but probably expressing it poorly biophile Dec 25 #24
The goal with all vaccines is to create the best response possible, lifetime immunity if possible Blues Heron Dec 25 #25
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I really can't believe that people believe this sort of thing. NNadir Dec 26 #35
Awful! Dear_Prudence Dec 25 #9
My 5 year old step-Granddaughter is sick this year. House of Roberts Dec 25 #10
You could still have the flu biophile Dec 25 #12
Healing vibes on the way to you, Jilly! SheltieLover Dec 25 #13
Trump is back in power and he brings with him another pandemic, methinks. rurallib Dec 25 #14
Get well wishes to you 🙏 TommieMommy Dec 25 #15
Merry Christmas! I am on day 7 of what sounds like the same thing. The good news: Scrivener7 Dec 25 #17
Sounds like the current variant of Covid. Hope22 Dec 25 #19
Bummer. I hope you are much better soon. LoisB Dec 25 #20
Everyone around me bamagal62 Dec 25 #26
they have never claimed you cannot get covid/or flu if you are vaccinated Skittles Dec 25 #27
I got Covid after having all the shots. Irish_Dem Dec 25 #28
Feel better soon Jilly_in_VA. MIButterfly Dec 25 #29
I had all vaccines and have Flu A, as does my husband. halobeam Dec 26 #30
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There is a new strain. Codifer Dec 26 #31
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