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Igel

(36,229 posts)
15. It's going insolvent.
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 12:22 PM
Dec 15

That means it won't be able to cover its obligations (at least unless something's done to fix it).

"Insolvent" doesn't mean "out of money." It just means the law will say to pay a certain amount and the SSA will say something like, "I can pay 75 cents on the dollar."

In that sense there's nothing to "fix"--SS payment will then be 100% pay-go, no dipping into invested assets to fund current pay-outs. Even now, liquidating those assets just moves the debt around on the books and increase current interest expenses paid by the Treasury. They are transferred to publicly debt on the books of the federal government, issued as T-bills and the like at commercial rates, as opposed to the internally held special issue Treasury bills at a fixed rate.

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Please correct me if I'm wrong... Think. Again. Dec 15 #1
I think these are people who did pay into social security MacKasey Dec 15 #2
I see, so they HAVE PAID into the SS system... Think. Again. Dec 15 #4
You are correct. The GPO IS a problem because survivor/spousal benefits are dependent benefits, valleyrogue Dec 15 #12
"An inequities will have to be fixed down the road." MichMan Dec 15 #14
I agree, it doesn't seem that 2 very different issues should be addressed by one act.. Think. Again. Dec 15 #19
Thank you, I think I understand that... Think. Again. Dec 15 #18
Why should I have to pay tax on 85% of my SS, that is tax on a tax. doc03 Dec 15 #3
Worse, why is the threshold for that tax fixed at a 1984 dollar value? Voltaire2 Dec 15 #7
That is the first time I ever saw just how many people it doc03 Dec 15 #9
Ronald Reagan signed it into law in 1983 MacKasey Dec 15 #16
Tip O'Neil proudly worked with Reagan on the bipartisan 'reform' bill. nt. Voltaire2 Dec 15 #17
SS isn't going "'broke." That is a fiction. WEP is earned benefits stolen from those who paid in. valleyrogue Dec 15 #13
No one should be exempted from paying into SS MichMan Dec 15 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author doc03 Dec 15 #11
Confused XanaDUer2 Dec 15 #6
From my understanding it will cost the SS system quite a bit of $$$. MichMan Dec 15 #8
I hope it happens. No, SS isn't going "insolvent." That is a rightwing lie since there is an valleyrogue Dec 15 #10
It's going insolvent. Igel Dec 15 #15
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