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97. Castle doctrine in name only.

Fri Jul 3, 2026, 07:27 PM

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You must try to evade, actively, within the home.

You can't shoot someone because they kicked in your door, and decided to start punching your wife or kid cause she done someone wrong or said something about someone. Duke it out, run away, whatever... grab a bat, or gun or anything useful, you're now the bad guy.

For that matter, if someone kicks in your door, grabs you by the shirt, and says gimme all your money or else... Well, you can't shoot them either, cause all they did grab and threaten you. Duke it out, run away, whatever... grab a bat, or gun or anything useful, you're now the bad guy.

No castle allows that.

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The man was shouting; the woman was pointing a gun at him. muriel_volestrangler 10 hrs ago #119

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