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In reply to the discussion: American-born Pope Leo may not visit US while Trump is president after diplomat meeting disaster: report [View all]muriel_volestrangler
(106,273 posts)7. The Pentagon Threatened Pope Leo XIV's Ambassador With the Avignon Papacy
[UPDATE at 4:33 PM EDT: Letters from Leo can now independently confirm The Free Press report that the meeting took place and that some Vatican officials were so alarmed by the Pentagons tactics that they shelved plans for Pope Leo XIV to visit the United States later this year.
Other officials in the Vatican saw the Pentagons reference to an Avignon papacy as a threat to use military force against the Holy See.]
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America, Colby and his colleagues told the cardinal, has the military power to do whatever it wants in the world. The Catholic Church had better take its side.
As tempers rose, one U.S. official reached for a fourteenth-century weapon and invoked the Avignon Papacy, the period when the French Crown used military force to bend the bishop of Rome to its will.
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What enraged them most was Leos declaration that a diplomacy that promotes dialogue and seeks consensus among all parties is being replaced by a diplomacy based on force.
The Pentagon read that sentence as a frontal challenge to the so-called Donroe Doctrine Trumps update of Monroe, asserting unchallenged American dominion over the Western Hemisphere.
https://www.thelettersfromleo.com/p/the-pentagon-threatened-pope-leo
Other officials in the Vatican saw the Pentagons reference to an Avignon papacy as a threat to use military force against the Holy See.]
...
America, Colby and his colleagues told the cardinal, has the military power to do whatever it wants in the world. The Catholic Church had better take its side.
As tempers rose, one U.S. official reached for a fourteenth-century weapon and invoked the Avignon Papacy, the period when the French Crown used military force to bend the bishop of Rome to its will.
...
What enraged them most was Leos declaration that a diplomacy that promotes dialogue and seeks consensus among all parties is being replaced by a diplomacy based on force.
The Pentagon read that sentence as a frontal challenge to the so-called Donroe Doctrine Trumps update of Monroe, asserting unchallenged American dominion over the Western Hemisphere.
https://www.thelettersfromleo.com/p/the-pentagon-threatened-pope-leo
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American-born Pope Leo may not visit US while Trump is president after diplomat meeting disaster: report [View all]
BumRushDaShow
17 hrs ago
OP
The US military threatening to kill or caputre you, is not a welcoming sign.
Irish_Dem
16 hrs ago
#1
would trump put a tomohawk through the roof of the Sistine chapel to get leo?
rampartd
13 hrs ago
#11
Wait... Why are you dissing NYC? Plenty of Hispanics, Latinos, and Mexicans live here.
electric_blue68
1 hr ago
#33
Any statement the Pope makes will be of a religious and non-political nature
FakeNoose
12 hrs ago
#19
The Pentagon Threatened Pope Leo XIV's Ambassador With the Avignon Papacy
muriel_volestrangler
14 hrs ago
#7
"The Pentagon requesting a meeting with a Vatican official is "unprecedented," according to the report."
Prairie Gates
14 hrs ago
#8