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muriel_volestrangler

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7. The Pentagon Threatened Pope Leo XIV's Ambassador With the Avignon Papacy
Thu Apr 9, 2026, 08:00 AM
14 hrs ago
[UPDATE at 4:33 PM EDT: Letters from Leo can now independently confirm The Free Press report that the meeting took place — and that some Vatican officials were so alarmed by the Pentagon’s tactics that they shelved plans for Pope Leo XIV to visit the United States later this year.

Other officials in the Vatican saw the Pentagon’s reference to an Avignon papacy as a threat to use military force against the Holy See.]

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America, Colby and his colleagues told the cardinal, has the military power to do whatever it wants in the world. The Catholic Church had better take its side.

As tempers rose, one U.S. official reached for a fourteenth-century weapon and invoked the Avignon Papacy, the period when the French Crown used military force to bend the bishop of Rome to its will.
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What enraged them most was Leo’s declaration that “a diplomacy that promotes dialogue and seeks consensus among all parties is being replaced by a diplomacy based on force.”

The Pentagon read that sentence as a frontal challenge to the so-called “Donroe Doctrine” — Trump’s update of Monroe, asserting unchallenged American dominion over the Western Hemisphere.

https://www.thelettersfromleo.com/p/the-pentagon-threatened-pope-leo

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6 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

The US military threatening to kill or caputre you, is not a welcoming sign. Irish_Dem 16 hrs ago #1
Trump's veiled threat is all the more reason Pope Leo should visit the U.S. sop 15 hrs ago #2
trump is impressed by crowd size rampartd 14 hrs ago #3
That was amazing. NT Tom Dyer 14 hrs ago #6
Unless he doesn't feel safe here? displacedvermoter 14 hrs ago #9
would trump put a tomohawk through the roof of the Sistine chapel to get leo? rampartd 13 hrs ago #11
There are very crazy Latin Massers who displacedvermoter 13 hrs ago #13
Silly people, we all know that Chump is the real Anti-Christ FakeNoose 12 hrs ago #18
in the heat of actual armed conflict rampartd 12 hrs ago #22
Would the Pope Mobile fit in the Oval Office? Bayard 9 hrs ago #28
Yes, let's give the icestapo easy, large hunting grounds. We are not niyad 13 hrs ago #15
So Leo should capitulate, bow to krasnov? Because that is exactly what niyad 13 hrs ago #14
Strongly disagree. ananda 10 hrs ago #27
Come to the US and snub MFer. Don't go to DC, NYC, Miami. maxsolomon 9 hrs ago #29
Wait... Why are you dissing NYC? Plenty of Hispanics, Latinos, and Mexicans live here. electric_blue68 1 hr ago #33
tRump and company using the Pope distration with outrage as goal FarPoint 14 hrs ago #4
PLEO OhioBack2Blue 14 hrs ago #5
Any statement the Pope makes will be of a religious and non-political nature FakeNoose 12 hrs ago #19
The Pentagon Threatened Pope Leo XIV's Ambassador With the Avignon Papacy muriel_volestrangler 14 hrs ago #7
"reached for a 14th century weapon. ." my heart almost stopped. Surely niyad 12 hrs ago #16
"The Pentagon requesting a meeting with a Vatican official is "unprecedented," according to the report." Prairie Gates 14 hrs ago #8
Remember that DOD is now headed by a faux Christian zealot BumRushDaShow 13 hrs ago #10
the pope will not meet trump because rampartd 13 hrs ago #12
It will be interesting to see if there is a split in the church JBTaurus83 12 hrs ago #17
It's the Opus Dei faction that has caused most of the trouble FakeNoose 12 hrs ago #20
I agree. JBTaurus83 11 hrs ago #23
I believe Francis already started efforts against Opus Dei displacedvermoter 10 hrs ago #24
Maybe you saw this posted on DU the other day? FakeNoose 10 hrs ago #25
National Catholic Reporter 6/25 displacedvermoter 10 hrs ago #26
It would be in the best interest of the Church JBTaurus83 8 hrs ago #31
There always has been a split in the Catholic Church BumRushDaShow 12 hrs ago #21
Ah! Well... soon, ta ta, Cardinal Dolan! electric_blue68 1 hr ago #34
Any assurances that Trump makes would be meaningless bmichaelh 9 hrs ago #30
I hope the King of England cancels his visit also ! kimbutgar 6 hrs ago #32
I am still reeling over that report. valleyrogue 1 hr ago #35
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