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34. Asserting there is a fire is definitely a viewpoint.

Wed Apr 1, 2026, 03:07 AM

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A nut job asserting there's a fire is like asserting gay kids need to be converted. Both are false statements of fact and harmful. It doesn't matter if the person uttering them believe these lies or not. Banning these lies is warranted by a balancing of interests in protecting the 1st Amendment versus protecting the public. And with both scenarios, protecting the public far outweighs any 1st Amendment interests.

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Supreme Court rules against Colorado ban on 'conversion therapy' for LGBTQ+ kids [View all] BumRushDaShow Yesterday OP

Obergefell is in danger Prairie Gates Yesterday #1

I doubt Obergefell makes it through next year's docket JT45242 Yesterday #11

I don't know that there's a live case coming through the courts that would challenge Obergefell Prairie Gates Yesterday #15

Not any time soon FBaggins Yesterday #29

There were actually two reasons for my timeframe in my post Prairie Gates Yesterday #30

Conversion therapy is torture LetMyPeopleVote Yesterday #2

I could accept this, though not like it, if this principle were being applied anything like equally dsc Yesterday #3

Yikes! Kagan and Sotomayor concurring with the conservatives Jose Garcia Yesterday #4

This is an excerpt from the Kagan & Sotomayor concurring opinion. Justice Kagan authored it & Justice Sotomayor joined. 24601 Yesterday #6

Disappointing. Conversion therapy is harmful quackery. SunSeeker Yesterday #9

They actually cover that in the opinion Shrek Yesterday #12

Yelling "Fire!" in a crowded theater is "only speech" as well, but it is regulated. SunSeeker Yesterday #16

Sure, but yelling in a crowded theatre isn't speech based on viewpoint Shrek Yesterday #23

Asserting there is a fire is definitely a viewpoint. SunSeeker 13 hrs ago #34

Or they just voted for what they thought was right Polybius Yesterday #24

The weird christo-fascist sleep-away camps wolfie001 Yesterday #5

They charge a lot of money for those camps. dickthegrouch Yesterday #19

No protections from mental abuse by religious fanatics. maxsolomon Yesterday #7

"We condone child abuse," says Supreme Court sakabatou Yesterday #8

WTF? It is not a Free Speech question. It is a medical, sociological, and ethical question. Martin68 Yesterday #10

Apparently that's how it works, according to the opinion Shrek Yesterday #14

That is impossible angrychair Yesterday #20

If that is what the decision is based on, then it does seem reasonable to me. As long as advice is freely requested and Martin68 Yesterday #22

Many of the people undergoing conversion therapy are minors forced by their bigoted Christian parents. Lonestarblue Yesterday #26

I agree entirely. My point is if the subject request advice, that is legit. Does the court finding allow parents to Martin68 19 hrs ago #31

Abuse because of a child's gender identity or sexual orientation certainly isn't a domain exclusive to Christianity. 24601 17 hrs ago #32

The court opened the door to any and all quack Klarkashton Yesterday #13

Sweet, I'll set up shop tomorrow angrychair Yesterday #17

So it'll be okay for us to develop a conversion therapy program... WestMichRad Yesterday #18

MAGAt conversion therapy. AWESOME! Dr. T Yesterday #25

Lots of other instances where the government is restricting speech. dickthegrouch Yesterday #21

Deadline Legal Blog-Supreme Court sides with Christian counselor over Colorado on 'conversion therapy' for minors LetMyPeopleVote Yesterday #27

Deadline Legal Blog-Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson steps out alone, again - this time on 'conversion therapy' LetMyPeopleVote Yesterday #28

If you would, expand a bit on the risks Shrek 7 hrs ago #35

Desperation. The clock is ticking. The Grand Illuminist 15 hrs ago #33

Conversion Exploitation. Nothing therapy about it. Scott Alan Swaggerty 5 hrs ago #36

Arguments in favor of 'conversion therapy' may be free speech, but the 'therapy' itself is not. Aristus 3 hrs ago #37