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hamsterjill

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36. Interesting perspective. Thanks.
Mon Mar 2, 2026, 07:12 PM
Mar 2

Our fundamental difference is, however, that I have no inclination whatsoever that they will try to take any guns. They already know that's going to be a losing proposition. It's going to come down to who decides that they are going to take up guns, and in that situation, MAGA's have more guns and more importantly more ammunition - at least in my area of the world. MAGA's have less of a conscience, too, and they are easily manipulated.

All I really know about is Texas. I've never lived anywhere else. So, I'll talk about Texas here.

So, let's say that Trump cancels the election. The first step isn't going to be for normal citizens to immediately take to the streets and start shooting people. It will take some time. Yes, I think we would see plenty of protestors and violence, and ICE, National Guard and in my own case, local police would be trying to quell those protests because the local police are definitely ALL MAGA. They have the law on their side (or at least they'd still be insisting that they do, just like ICE does now) and they'd be using whatever force they need in order to get rid of any opposition.

People would be arrested at the protests, or else killed. Any arrested would be housed in the detention centers that are being prepared. The violence would be used to convince all of the MAGA's that the protestors are coming for them next, and the MAGA's would take up the fight. Ala - 'you better lock your doors because these paid protestors are coming after you next!"

Congress isn't going to do anything, obviously, and the Supreme Court isn't going to do anything - so WHO IS???? You think Greg Abbott is going to stand up to Trump? Pfffft! You think Gavin Newsom can invade Texas and save a red state??? I mean, what exactly do you think we could count on? Who's going to make sure that we have an election if Trump says we aren't? And who's going to make sure it's a fair election?

Texas may be a "minority majority", but it always has been. The minorities voted for Trump last time. They (as a whole because individuals differ, obviously) have been convinced that their very bread and butter depends on it because many of them listen to their rich bosses and vote accordingly. They are made to fear for their jobs and being able to provide for their families. Texas is not logical and data driven. They want you to THINK that it is, but it isn't. It is very muchly ruled by the "ruling class". We don't have big unions down here defending someone who flips Trump the bird.

As an example, the Republicans desperately want Crockett to win the nomination because they KNOW that most of the people in Texas - minority or not - are NOT going to vote for a Black woman. Now, that's not me, so don't start accusing me of racism. But that IS how things work down here. You can get these people all riled up all that you want, and you can show me poll after poll after poll. But I would believe it only if it were to happen and it's not going to. The safe route (think what you will) is for Talarico to win and keep the excitement going through the General and HOPE that the Crockett voters understanding things well enough to all come out and support him. Again - not my thinking; just the reality that IS Texas.

I don't know about your BIL's brother having lived in Texas. But I was born here and I've lived here my whole considerable years. Texas IS ground zero for the Trump dictatorship. It's their proving ground, etc. It's been their way of testing the waters to see what works and how much they can get away with. The path to where we are now has been being placed piece by piece for the last forty years. It is NOT going to be that easy to stop it at this point.

Now, my purpose is not to bust your chops. So if you have any insight into making me feel more hopeful about what could save us from Trump, I would love to hear it. I desperately want to have some real hope but I don't want to have false hopes. Blue states could, I would hope, expect a better outcome. But then Greg Abbott will just invade them one at a time, and here we'll go. So, bottom line is who would stop Trump if he decides to call off an election?



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Best check if your homeowner's insurance covers military attacks. twodogsbarking Mar 2 #1
It doesn't. eggplant Mar 2 #20
Then borrow all you can. yeehaw. twodogsbarking Mar 2 #24
Amusingly, it covers the house being hit by a rocket or missile... eggplant Mar 2 #32
Thanks. I recall reading such things on business policies. The shit they put in there is interesting. twodogsbarking Mar 2 #34
Tinfoil hat time NCDem47 Mar 2 #2
Krasnov already told us he plans to rig the election gab13by13 Mar 2 #4
Boy, are you gonna be surprised in November Fiendish Thingy Mar 2 #12
You have posted about this before. hamsterjill Mar 2 #17
"He has a militia in place (ICE) with guns" BumRushDaShow Mar 2 #21
I'm not sure that I'm following your logic. I'm on my way out the door and need to read your info more thoroughly, but hamsterjill Mar 2 #23
The issue still comes down to "guns" BumRushDaShow Mar 2 #29
Interesting perspective. Thanks. hamsterjill Mar 2 #36
"I have no inclination whatsoever that they will try to take any guns." BumRushDaShow Mar 2 #38
If political divisions ever come down to actual physical fighting, wnylib Mar 2 #39
I can agree with your statement. hamsterjill Mar 2 #40
If the left ever got organized, my previous post wnylib Mar 2 #41
I understand. hamsterjill Mar 2 #46
Neither do I. wnylib Mar 2 #47
This Iran attack shows Trump has NO qualms about doing the most extreme things SamuelTheThird Mar 2 #26
Damn straight! hamsterjill Mar 2 #37
why do so many people think these assholes will be held accountable? Skittles Mar 2 #42
I didn't say I expected the senate to convict and remove Fiendish Thingy Mar 2 #44
I say good luck with that Skittles Mar 2 #45
Two impeachments out of two attempts is a pretty good record. Nt Fiendish Thingy Mar 2 #48
and the price paid was..... Skittles Mar 2 #49
Didn't we just have one in Austin, Texas? gab13by13 Mar 2 #3
The last paragraph of the OP article indicated that BumRushDaShow Mar 2 #6
I only get my news from a handful of sources, gab13by13 Mar 2 #7
You didn't have to click on the link BumRushDaShow Mar 2 #9
No doubt Blue_Roses Mar 2 #5
Already started orangecrush Mar 2 #8
Cnn is no longer reliable. Javaman Mar 2 #10
He had on a shirt that said "property of Allah" ashredux Mar 2 #13
yes and? Javaman Mar 2 #14
No, he's is being condemned because he killed three people and injured around 17 others...period ashredux Mar 2 #15
you just said he was wearing a Muslim oriented shirt Javaman Mar 2 #16
No, I'm not backing away, I'm just being a bit more specific.... ashredux Mar 2 #18
"underneath, a shirt with "Iran" and the Iranian flag on it" muriel_volestrangler Mar 2 #35
repukes don't do anything about chronic gun carnage Skittles Mar 2 #43
Translation: Fiendish Thingy Mar 2 #11
Venezuela and Iran are targeting the pedo and his henchmen Farmer-Rick Mar 2 #19
Consequences Bayard Mar 2 #22
Trump has gutted every agency that is assigned to protect the country from terrorism. hadEnuf Mar 2 #28
By DHS? Against us? travelingthrulife Mar 2 #25
Can't believe Traildogbob Mar 2 #27
By changing only two words, it becomes more clear (to me) the shooter's mindset. Torchlight Mar 2 #30
Oh gee ya think? mdbl Mar 2 #31
Just give them the list of major Trump donors. GreenWave Mar 2 #33
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