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Wiz Imp

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44. SO? Let them do it. It will fail and make them look like idiots.
Wed Feb 18, 2026, 01:15 PM
Wednesday

Even the Wall Street Journal editorial page says it would be a stupid thing to do.
https://www.wsj.com/opinion/the-hot-air-of-the-talking-filibuster-b3643289?gaa_at=eafs&gaa_n=AWEtsqd8lCdtTDZV9_drwaHxIhVHuA6y_AJjjcOMRNk9lewLHxnn6dtduhPXIPv2NeM%3D&gaa_ts=69960244&gaa_sig=6wG31k_Na8eiuq4_zp59VzxAM3I1xDj4AZRmt0l4Q_RpI9KBusQD8cusML0RhzJbDc3NXG8oJVBeB0la5kfZ0A%3D%3D

The Hot Air of the Talking Filibuster
As Washington grows ever more gridlocked, members grow ever more interested in testing the filibuster. With most Republican senators adamant that they won’t abolish the procedure outright (which is for the good), some in the activist base are instead demanding Senate leaders change it, by reviving the “talking” filibuster.

Specifically, Florida Rep. Anna Paulina Luna (with support from conservative senators, like Utah’s Mike Lee) want Majority Leader John Thune to ditch “cloture,” the longstanding process that ends debate—and a bill’s progress, if there is not 60 votes. Democrats would instead be forced to actively talk to stall a vote on the SAVE Act, a House bill requiring proof of citizenship when registering to vote and photo ID at the polls. Mr. Lee summed it up: “Return to Senate tradition. Require filibustering senators to (gasp) actually speak. Using existing Senate rules. Pass the SAVE America Act.” His X post contained (surprise, surprise) nostalgic video of Jimmy Stewart waging his one-man filibuster battle against corrupt Washington.

Talking by turns: Senate Democrats are pretty much united against the SAVE Act. So it won’t be one Jimmy Stewart “holding” the floor: it’ll be 47. Under talking-filibuster rules, Democrats get two speeches apiece—each of unlimited length—simply to oppose moving on to the bill. In a total opposition scenario, that’s 94 speeches. If each Democrat spoke for, say, eight hours at a time—each twice—that’s about 750 hours (31 days) of talking. Under traditional talking-filibuster rules, there is no way to end this torture.

Then again . . . and again: Democrats can easily take turns eating, sleeping and flying home during this marathon. Only one of them needs to be on the floor giving a speech. The GOP, by contrast, will need to maintain almost all its members on the floor at all times. At any moment, Schumer might demand a quorum call—which demand 51 senators. Schumer could also move to adjourn, which would restart the legislative day—providing Democrats a whole new round of 94 speeches. Indeed, any new question or point sparks another round of speeches. What is the left’s top priority in 2026? Blocking entirely the GOP agenda. A talking filibuster provides Democrats a pain-free, headline-friendly way of taking the Senate (and by extension the entire GOP Congress) offline for a very long period
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You also keep ignoring the fact that Republicans have the 50 votes necessary to pass the legislation by simple majority making Democratic votes completely meaningless unless there are 8 of them to brek the filibuster.

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The GOP has 53 members and (D)s/(I)s have 47 BumRushDaShow Tuesday #1
Fetterman - pro, Murkowski - no BaronChocula Tuesday #8
Am hoping it is DOA in the Senate BumRushDaShow Wednesday #14
Fetterman has not said he supports it. Wiz Imp Wednesday #20
Jesus Christ, when so many Democrats are against this, Fetterman should NOT even bluestarone Wednesday #34
Filibusters can be initiated by a simple email to the clerk stating the intention to filibuster Fiendish Thingy Tuesday #2
"This will be the ultimate test of Schumer's leadership." OldBaldy1701E Tuesday #3
What if. after the midterms, the Senate is split 51 D/49R onenote Tuesday #5
Tell me, what legislation is going to be passed with the filibuster intact? Fiendish Thingy Tuesday #7
So you'd hand control over the Senate back to the repubs onenote Wednesday #9
It would be Fetterman handing control to the republicans Fiendish Thingy Wednesday #10
Here is a tracker/scorer for how progressive/conservative our members of Congress are BumRushDaShow Wednesday #16
Fetterman might be a lot of things, but showboater isn't one of them Deminpenn Wednesday #19
"Fetterman might be a lot of things, but showboater isn't one of them" BumRushDaShow Wednesday #30
Fetterman has dressed like that for years Deminpenn Wednesday #40
Oh I know BumRushDaShow Wednesday #42
Casey has said he was not retiring and thus has not ruled out running again. Wiz Imp Wednesday #47
Oh I know like Sherrod Brown BumRushDaShow Wednesday #49
I was very surprised he lost to McCormick, tbh Deminpenn Thursday #54
Casey and Brown got caught up in a "wave" election BumRushDaShow Thursday #55
Seen the video and posted same several times Deminpenn Thursday #53
Thanks Fiendish Thingy Wednesday #22
Thanks. Wiz Imp Wednesday #24
Agree!!! nm mikewv Wednesday #27
That is because Fetterman made himself into a "media sensation" BumRushDaShow Wednesday #31
I believe for tie-breaking it matters how Fetterman votes, not what party he's a member of? Ilikepurple Wednesday #11
For deciding who is the majority leader, it matters a lot. onenote Wednesday #43
Fetterman would never caucus with Republicans Wiz Imp Wednesday #46
If he was ousted from the Democratic caucus and stripped of committee positions onenote Wednesday #50
If the SAVE Act passed the Senate, it would mean at least 8 Democrats voted for it. Wiz Imp Wednesday #21
Unless, as threatened, they change the rules in the filibuster. Nt Fiendish Thingy Wednesday #23
If they change the rules eliminating the filibuster, then ZERO Democratic votes are needed to Wiz Imp Wednesday #25
Unless more republicans than Murkowski vote No. nt Fiendish Thingy Wednesday #26
The title of the Post and the article it refers to is "Trump's election bill tops 50 Senate votes" Wiz Imp Wednesday #28
You apparently missed this: Wiz Imp Wednesday #29
They aren't talking about eliminating it, but changing the rules Fiendish Thingy Wednesday #41
SO? Let them do it. It will fail and make them look like idiots. Wiz Imp Wednesday #44
best of luck to them Fiendish Thingy Wednesday #48
If it is 51/49, Removing Fetterman by any means does not make Vance a tie breaker karynnj Wednesday #33
"Shapiro would call for a special election. So, he would remain at 50/49 for months. " BumRushDaShow Wednesday #36
Thanks for the correction. karynnj Wednesday #37
No problem - I remember that whole period when Heinz had the plane/helicopter accident BumRushDaShow Wednesday #39
Not talking about removing him from the Senate--talking about removing him from the Democratic caucus onenote Wednesday #51
Oh, you are correct. Pushing him out of the caucus is beyond stupid karynnj Wednesday #52
There is ZERO chance of it passing. Wiz Imp Tuesday #4
I recall election night 2016 . . . AverageOldGuy Tuesday #6
This isn't the same situation Karma13612 Wednesday #12
Ridiculous comparison Wiz Imp Wednesday #18
Lots of good info here, but not a ZERO (all capitals?) chance of passing. Ilikepurple Wednesday #13
Behind-the-scenes no_hypocrisy Wednesday #15
I hope Democratic think tanks are working on ways to help people get legitimate IDs if needed. karynnj Wednesday #35
People who move? College students missing their birth certificate? Hispanics with multiple last names? lostnfound Wednesday #45
I was not saying that it would easy to create a workable process, karynnj Thursday #57
Those are good, constructive ideas. In NC, though, the GOP just grabbed election processes for themselves... lostnfound Friday #58
Republicans...destroying our democracy one pillar at a time. travelingthrulife Wednesday #17
So none of these apparently uneducated Senators knows that this is an illegal poll tax? travelingthrulife Wednesday #32
"So none of these apparently uneducated Senators knows that this is an illegal poll tax?" BumRushDaShow Wednesday #38
Nor would their wives be exempt if this were to pass. ProudMNDemocrat Thursday #56
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