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Ol Janx Spirit

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16. The logistics for Formula One--being a truly worldwide series--and the track requirements make it...
Fri Jan 30, 2026, 10:15 PM
Jan 30

...far less agile for adding a calendar event at the last minute. It's also not "American" like IndyCar or NASCAR, so it would not make sense for a celebration of the anniversary of America.

That said, there is a huge difference between the two series: the biggest being that a Formula One team is required to design and build two cars from the ground up with only a few systems being allowed to be bought from other vendors--engines and braking systems being the main things. One of the biggest impacts of that is that each team has to design and build their own chassis and aerodynamics packages.

IndyCar teams can run more than two cars, and they all currently run a Dallara IR-12 chassis (2012-present) with Dallara IR-18 aero kit. They can choose between a Honda HI24E hybrid Indy-V-6 and a Chevy INDYCAR V6 engine.

This--and not having to travel all over the world for races--makes IndyCar a much less expensive series to run. But it obviously does not foster the engineering development of Formula One.

Both series run a single tire manufacturer: Firestone Firehawk for IndyCar; Pirelli for Formula One. Both series have multiple compounds of the tires and require that teams run at least two during a dry race.

Formula One runs exclusively on "road courses"--meaning you have to turn right and left--while IndyCar runs on numerous "oval" tracks like the Indianapolis Motor Speedway where drivers only make left-hand turns.

Both series make pit stops, but Formula One teams do not currently refuel during a pit stop--only change tires and wing settings--while IndyCars refuel with a rapid, gravity-fed and pressurized refueling system, allowing teams to fill the 22-gallon tank with Shell's 100% renewable racing fuel in less than 10 seconds. That's fast, but a Formula One pit stop takes about 2 seconds.

The other huge difference is that Formula One does a "standing start," while IndyCar does a "rolling start." The standing start is one of the most exciting things in all of sport IMO: 20+ of the fastest and best engineered machines in all of motorsport waiting on the lights to go out for an all-out zero-to-whatever sprint to the first turn.

HTH!

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Panem et circensis. Harker Jan 30 #1
Yep. Just like the wifey's movie. Only maybe actually interesting. littlemissmartypants Jan 30 #10
Fat Donnie from Queens must not have gotten all the toys he wanted when he was little. jls4561 Jan 30 #2
How much is this gonna cost the taxpayers? How ridiculous Deuxcents Jan 30 #3
Right. Biden couldn't waive a little student debt and his asshat chicoescuela Feb 1 #52
EO full of shit................ Lovie777 Jan 30 #4
IndyCar isn't Jell-O wrestling or a hot dog eating contest.... While I am disappointed that IndyCar will participate.. Ol Janx Spirit Jan 30 #5
I was going to ask you what was first... reACTIONary Jan 30 #12
The logistics for Formula One--being a truly worldwide series--and the track requirements make it... Ol Janx Spirit Jan 30 #16
Very informative! I can't help but make comparisons to regeta sailing... reACTIONary Jan 30 #18
I'm into sailboat racing as well, and have done some of it myself. And yes, that's a great comparison! Ol Janx Spirit Jan 31 #23
Always up wind! The world record boats.... reACTIONary Jan 31 #24
Re Formula One pit stop takes about 2 seconds.... reACTIONary Jan 30 #19
The pit stop times for F1 are faster for a couple reasons MichMan Jan 31 #29
Auto racing has never interested me Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 30 #14
I get that. I'm sure there are things that interest you that don't interest me.... Ol Janx Spirit Jan 30 #15
Everyone has their own likes and dislikes MichMan Jan 31 #30
I don't watch soccer or tennis either Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 31 #31
Can't stand basketball MichMan Jan 31 #33
Maybe Pato O'Ward will win!! Pucks mom Jan 31 #26
With over 60% of the grid being foreign-born, it is fairly likely a non-American will win. Ol Janx Spirit Jan 31 #39
I'm rooting for Josef Newgarden MichMan Feb 1 #63
left hand turns travelingthrulife Jan 31 #27
Radical left turns. Ol Janx Spirit Jan 31 #40
Most road and street racing tracks have a preponderance of right turns as they run clockwise MichMan Feb 2 #64
Unless there's been a LOT more going on behind the scenes than we're aware of... sir pball Jan 31 #38
I think it's going to happen. They've already put it on their calendar as a points-scoring race.... Ol Janx Spirit Jan 31 #41
As someone living in DC... sir pball Jan 31 #44
I guess we will find out pretty soon what the plan is. I absolutely hear what you're saying... Ol Janx Spirit Feb 1 #45
Okay, I can buy that argument. sir pball Feb 1 #56
OT, the LMP thing was just meant as friendly provocation sir pball Feb 1 #57
It's hard to get under my skin unless you are just disparaging auto racing... Ol Janx Spirit Feb 1 #61
Does Roger Penske have a habit of failing to deliver once he agrees to do something? MichMan Jan 31 #42
No, he doesn't. sir pball Jan 31 #43
True, but his agreement this time is with The Devil. sir pball Feb 1 #55
Or it could be a successful event like the over 100 or so street races that the IndyCars have run before. MichMan Feb 1 #62
And Albert Park, and Marina Bay... sir pball Feb 2 #66
Oh for crying out loud choie Feb 1 #53
Well yes, me either. But that wasn't the point of my reply. Ol Janx Spirit Feb 1 #59
Working on all the urgent matters facing the country. IcyPeas Jan 30 #6
Yawn. Call me when he lines up The Street Outlaws from the 405. Marie Marie Jan 30 #7
I looked into Street Outlaws 405... reACTIONary Jan 30 #13
They started out as a real bunch of illegal street racers but once they became a TV show, Marie Marie Jan 30 #20
Roger Penske can now F off chicoescuela Jan 30 #8
Well, it beats a forced march birthday militarily parade... reACTIONary Jan 30 #9
Since ETTD, I imagine that the wrecks will be spectacular. littlemissmartypants Jan 30 #11
The Jello wrestling is being saved for "Melania II". eppur_se_muova Jan 30 #17
Our seat of government is reduced to a carny. BidenRocks Jan 30 #21
Bingo Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 31 #37
Next: Chariot races and everyone has to wear togas NBachers Jan 30 #22
Chariot races... exactly! Togas and no more "age of consent" at White House orgies. QueerDuck Jan 31 #25
Will he have a stand selling young girls? He'll measure their vagina length and tightness for you. travelingthrulife Jan 31 #28
Was anyone in DC government thinking about this before Trump saw the shiny AI object and grabbed it? muriel_volestrangler Jan 31 #32
IndyCars don't use fossil fuels, and the race isn't until the end of August. MichMan Jan 31 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author muriel_volestrangler Jan 31 #35
7 months is short notice to screw around with a city's streets, muriel_volestrangler Jan 31 #36
This is actually something they are very good at. Actually planning the circuit... Ol Janx Spirit Feb 1 #46
Isn't that assuming an area of the city that actually wants their streets shut down, in return for the economic activity muriel_volestrangler Feb 1 #47
Well, yes, that would be a consideration...but you'll have to take that up the mayor who is... Ol Janx Spirit Feb 1 #48
OK, thanks for finding that - I had asked, since I found nothing about this muriel_volestrangler Feb 1 #49
It's the Gumball Rally all over again. leftyladyfrommo Feb 1 #50
The Chief of Staff is running all over the WH asking who in the hell let him watch Ben Hur. Scrivener7 Feb 1 #51
FFS Swede Feb 1 #54
Why not race golf carts ... wouldn't that would be more appropriate for Chump? FakeNoose Feb 1 #58
Run the race track STRAIGHT Thru the White House , the GOP offices in the House and Senate, Jack Valentino Feb 1 #60
Insane orangecrush Feb 2 #65
F1 runs on city streets a lot Boo1 Feb 2 #67
I'm guessing a GLOW match will be scheduled in the West Wing Torchlight Feb 2 #68
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