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52. Echos of The Berlin Conference

Thu Jan 8, 2026, 03:20 PM

Jan 8

This is Trump and Putin attempting to divide things up for the next 100+ years. Trump wants the US out of Europe, and Putin wants into Europe without the US there. Trump's done his best to kneecap NATO, keep Ukraine out of NATO, and hand Ukraine to Putin, but Putin still can't pull it off.

In exchange Trump gets Greenland and Canada down to the bottom of South America to do whatever with. Venezuela and Greenland are absolutely assets that the US would want to know they can absolutely count on to control in the upcoming geopolitics of scarcity and climate change, and inevitable resource wars to come.

My guess is China is ultimately squeezed out of S.A. and C.A. and can have Taiwan and the rest of Asia, as far as Trump is concerned. I think Japan is in for a shock if they think we will protect them from China or N.K. At the end of the day... Trump doesn't play well in Asia, and the Aussies don't seem to want Trump near them either, so no "In" to Asia for him... So Trump will write Asia off "Fox and the Grapes" style, say "I didn't want it anyway", focus on what's near us, and screw the rest.

And that's the future, as speculated by me...

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Denmark 'will shoot first and ask questions later' over Greenland [View all] riversedge Jan 7 OP

As they should... RockRaven Jan 7 #1

I agree creon Jan 7 #6

Yeah, Trump and his minions do whatever the fuck they want. raccoon Jan 8 #37

This should pull the EU into war with the US SSJVegeta Jan 7 #2

Trump's invasion of Greenland is a war against the EU DBoon Jan 7 #4

Yup SSJVegeta Jan 7 #5

Actually, the EU is not a military alliance like NATO, but 23 of the 27 members are also NATO members. Ol Janx Spirit Jan 7 #20

Incorrect. SSJVegeta Jan 7 #22

The Treaty of Lisbon has a neutrality clause: Ol Janx Spirit Jan 7 #25

I think that the EU will prove far more powerful than NATO SSJVegeta Jan 7 #29

Valid points, but the EU would still be slightly smaller than NATO without the U.S. from a... Ol Janx Spirit Jan 7 #31

This is such a wild scenario and I kinda makes me angry how there is even SSJVegeta Jan 7 #32

My thoughts exactly. This is absolute insanity, but here we are. It seems far too plausible. Ol Janx Spirit Jan 7 #33

Hopefully things get better. SSJVegeta Jan 8 #45

Hopefully. It feels unlikely so long as the Monstrosity-in-chief sits in the Oval, but we can still hope. Ol Janx Spirit Jan 8 #46

Oh man... and if right wing propaganda is any indication SSJVegeta Jan 8 #47

They've hated Europe since before the "freedom fries" days. Ol Janx Spirit Jan 8 #49

Agreed. And most of those conflicts are entirely asymmetrical SSJVegeta Jan 8 #53

MAD...I'm afraid.... Ol Janx Spirit Jan 8 #54

President of the European Commission Ursula von der Leyen thought crime Jan 8 #48

a satiation that now exists. rampartd Jan 8 #43

Though this order might effectively no longer having legal effect today. TomWilm Jan 7 #3

When you're dealing with Nazis and Hitler wannabes... ananda Jan 7 #7

So... on this point Tr*mp is right, that laws is useless? TomWilm Jan 8 #39

This is a law based on delays in fighting against Nazi Germany. ananda Jan 8 #44

... then it is up to you and what is left to fight him back home ... TomWilm Jan 8 #50

One thing I've learned the hard way... ananda Jan 8 #51

Then you really need to learn that ... TomWilm Jan 8 #55

Ok, you try it and see what happens. ananda Jan 8 #56

I did such stuff, and still do ... TomWilm Jan 8 #60

I'm not sure how taking the high and legal road EllieBC Jan 8 #58

Discussion in Parliament and actual tactics on the ground... paleotn Jan 7 #9

That was initially meant to deter Russian aggression. paleotn Jan 7 #8

Yes, we are now the russian-asset aggressors. Clouds Passing Jan 7 #10

"Are we the baddies?" video clip: tblue37 Jan 7 #12

Just so everyone understands, the Danes fiercely resisted the Nazis from the very beginning of the occupation. flashman13 Jan 7 #11

Thank You for the reminder.. We're Counting Cha Jan 7 #17

Yes. Our ancestors are famous for their mostly nonviolent resistance ... TomWilm Jan 8 #61

The source is The Telegraph. Yahoo.com is simply the news aggregator website hosting the article progree Jan 7 #13

I'm just surprised that markodochartaigh Jan 7 #14

Comic relief... littlemissmartypants Jan 7 #30

Western Europe learned ninety years ago appeasement is a bad idea. Torchlight Jan 7 #15

I love Denmark, Greenland, Canada, and Cha Jan 7 #16

Who'll be the 1st American soldier to die in the oasis Jan 7 #18

Some "sucker" or "loser" whose name The Dotard will mispronounce as he reads it for RockRaven Jan 7 #23

The smart move would be to station British, French, and Dutch forces in Greenland. Ford_Prefect Jan 7 #19

GONE ON THEM NotHardly Jan 7 #21

I assume that such an order is unnecessary. TomSlick Jan 7 #24

They understand defending their own country bucolic_frolic Jan 7 #26

Neither were the Viet Kong. Aussie105 Jan 8 #35

Completely justified. nt moniss Jan 7 #27

They learned in WW2 what it is to stand and fight The Blue Flower Jan 7 #28

Trump is bigly worried. Aussie105 Jan 8 #34

What a mess Shit For Brains got us into. Initech Jan 8 #36

I will NEVER forgive those fucking pieces of utter SHIT Trump voters Skittles Jan 8 #59

I'm a bit worried about myself. Aussie105 Jan 8 #38

Good for Denmark. Paladin Jan 8 #40

Protecting themselves ... from us Ruby the Liberal Jan 8 #41

lets hope the admin is the first off the boat samnsara Jan 8 #42

Echos of The Berlin Conference OC375 Jan 8 #52

and the STAND YOUR GROUND repukes won't like that Skittles Jan 8 #57