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Ol Janx Spirit

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48. IMO, Democrats demand their representatives to impeach Turnip at their/our own peril.
Sun Jan 4, 2026, 12:41 PM
Jan 4

For one thing: Until the action in question that is the reason for the impeachment is so universally denounced--at this point probably murdering the entire Supreme Court on live television or something--that it has the support of both parties it is only symbolic and more likely to backfire politically than not. An actual impeachment will not happen. And it would seem that is actually the way it was designed by the Founders.

For another: It just tends to take the spotlight off of all of the other horrible things going on--like not releasing the Epstein files.

It also makes other bi-partisan efforts far more difficult as it "poisons the well." This is not something only conservatives do to progressives--it happens both ways.

And, it can backfire: In 1998 the Republicans thought impeaching Clinton would lead to midterm gains, but they actually lost five seats in the house. In 2020, Democrats made only very modest gains despite the high-profile impeachment of Turnip earlier that year (Democrats gained 3 Senate seats to get to a 50/50 Senate, but they lost 13 seats in the House and one state governorship) despite winning the presidency.

Democrats should absolutely demand that their representatives call out the lawlessness of the action and release a joint statement condemning it, but calling for them to do something futile that will only make life harder going into the midterms is not a very forward-thinking strategy IMO.

Democrats need to have an economy-first message and ask Americans: how did this help your life? How did this make your health care more affordable? How did this make your rent more affordable? How did this make your child care and groceries more affordable?

They need to focus on what is important to Americans as we head towards the next "most important election in American history."

I have never believed that Turnip plays political chess--much less 4D chess--but performing actions like these that he knows will draw little rebuke from his party in power but have the potential to send Democrats off on political goose chases and create wedges among their base could very well be part of the point.

Focus Democrats. Focus....


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More media incompetence NJCher Jan 4 #1
100+ InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 4 #2
That insane NAZI would drop a nuke if he thought it would put Epstein files on hold Bengus81 Jan 4 #22
Not just impeachment..We require Removal from office. Paper Roses Jan 4 #52
Impeachment means nothing. Katinfl Jan 4 #53
Yup, a waste of time unless the democrats demosincebirth Jan 4 #59
That's pretty much all we have left. Will it be enough? Katinfl Jan 4 #60
It's possible demosincebirth Jan 5 #69
Unfortunately. Aussie105 Jan 4 #3
And they would be correct. LuvLoogie Jan 4 #33
American excrementalism Just Jerome Jan 4 #4
"Early next week"? Really? Shipwack Jan 4 #5
Schumer is useless, N/T tonekat Jan 4 #14
Jeffries signed his name to the same....early next week bullshit Bengus81 Jan 4 #20
Tonekat: POST. OF. THE. WEEK! DUU Jan 4 #27
Get a new schtick MorbidButterflyTat Jan 4 #62
Schumer, or I? nt Shipwack Jan 4 #63
So they are butt-hurt that they were disrespected by not getting a briefing? Bluetus Jan 4 #6
only one Congressman mentioned impeachment Anxy Jan 4 #43
floating jaymac Jan 4 #7
I have friends messaging me, "IMPEACH TRUMP"... IthinkThereforeIAM Jan 4 #9
"watch for the rise of a militarized Germany." BumRushDaShow Jan 4 #15
Impeach, convict, remove is definitely on the immediate agenda... returnee Jan 4 #58
Or how about "infrastructure week"? Katinfl Jan 4 #54
Wait till AFTER they fuck up the aftermath. Venezuelans are celebrating Madura's removal Callie1979 Jan 4 #8
Maybe they should stop celebrating and see WHO will take his place. Fuhrer Trump who now Bengus81 Jan 4 #23
I agree she SHOULD be. along with the guy who won with her. Callie1979 Jan 4 #36
Same as Saddam duckworth969 Jan 4 #50
Looks like great planning for the assault but ZERO for the day after. Callie1979 Jan 4 #51
The VP and a cabinet majority are not going to declare Trump unfit Shrek Jan 4 #10
The 25th Amendment has nothing to being UNFIT for office. It addresses an incumbent being UNABLE to "discharge the 24601 Jan 4 #12
A semantic quibble, and not a meaningful one Shrek Jan 4 #13
Agree. It would be a gift to the MAGA running in tough reelections. Callie1979 Jan 4 #37
I agree with 24601. murielm99 Jan 4 #38
Still a fantasy. Katinfl Jan 4 #55
Involuntary Removal of Power will NEVER happen QueerDuck Jan 4 #11
I've always thought about the very nonspecific part in the parentheses... Hugin Jan 4 #21
Well that's hopeful. thanks for the info and context! QueerDuck Jan 4 #24
I'm not even close to holding my breath about anything happening... Hugin Jan 4 #28
Yes. You're right about that! QueerDuck Jan 4 #29
Do it again!! AKwannabe Jan 4 #16
It will have no impact in the elections Anxy Jan 4 #44
The US is now a one party dictatorship. mn9driver Jan 4 #17
Just like most all of us were saying months before the 2024 election. Of course the MSM Bengus81 Jan 4 #19
That was not an "extradition". Hugin Jan 4 #18
I think trump did himself in for good with this one. mwb970 Jan 4 #25
He'll pretend he solved the crisis and MAGA...and certain Democrats, of course... travelingthrulife Jan 4 #32
He has no plan but his sidekicks do. Katinfl Jan 4 #56
How can Congress Democrat or Republican be furious when they have surrendered doc03 Jan 4 #26
Democrats rubber stamped the Iraq War? Anxy Jan 4 #42
But there were enough that did. nt doc03 Jan 4 #61
A Reckoning is coming. Stay calm. Vote. Keep the focus on Epstein! It's much worse than we think. Joinfortmill Jan 4 #30
Do it. Don't just talk about it. Trump is a Madman taking our country right to hell. travelingthrulife Jan 4 #31
Unfortunately the War Powers Act does not require Congressional notification before a attack, only after EX500rider Jan 4 #34
"We demanded early next week not late next week" said sternly. Clouds Passing Jan 4 #35
Chuck Schumer is floating Trump's impeachment? Emile Jan 4 #39
no. It's linkbait Anxy Jan 4 #41
Only one (US Representive from CA) foated impeachment Anxy Jan 4 #40
You didn't read the whole article and then guessed incorrectly at who was explictly cited BumRushDaShow Jan 4 #47
my bad. 2 out of 258 Democrats, not 1 out 258 Anxy Jan 4 #67
The 140 who voted in favor of letting the Dec. 11, 2025 impeachment resolution GO FORWARD BumRushDaShow Jan 4 #68
Okeydokie Bayard Jan 4 #45
My 2 Cents LarryNM Jan 4 #46
IMO, Democrats demand their representatives to impeach Turnip at their/our own peril. Ol Janx Spirit Jan 4 #48
The USA has had a 'bounty' for Maduro for about a year ClaudetteCC Jan 4 #49
And nothing will come of it, as repukes have their lips to Dump's ass sakabatou Jan 4 #57
Which Trump probably wants so he can get a pardon for supposed mental health issues from Vance. cstanleytech Jan 4 #64
Nothing was done after the illegal (according to International Law) invasion of Iraq. Justice matters. Jan 4 #65
But remember that back then BumRushDaShow Jan 4 #66
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