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Wiz Imp

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33. Um. I worked on the CES Program for close to 35 years.

Wed Dec 17, 2025, 10:33 PM

Dec 17

If you paid any attention at all, you'd see I responded to 3 separate posters that the data were seasonally adjusted. I don't need you or anyone lecturing me on seasonal adjustment.

My post was 100% accurate. I was talking about the seasonally adjusted jobs, (That should have been completely obvious - but apparently you felt the need to "correct" me by completely ignoring the context of my response), so it is 100% true that there's a significant chance that seasonally adjusted jobs actually went down.

Anyway, The "not seasonally adjusted" jobs increase in November was the smallest since 2009. Given that, I would have expected the seasonally adjusted number to show a drop and am surprised it showed a gain. It will almost certainly be ultimately revised to a drop.

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Um. I worked on the CES Program for close to 35 years. Wiz Imp Dec 17 #33

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