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BumRushDaShow

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Tue Dec 16, 2025, 08:33 AM Dec 16

Payrolls rose by 64,000 in November after falling by 105,000 in October, delayed jobs numbers show [View all]

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Source: CNBC

Published Tue, Dec 16 2025 8:32 AM EST Updated 28 Min Ago


Nonfarm payrolls grew slightly more than expected in November but slumped in October while unemployment hit its highest in four years, the Bureau of Labor Statistics reported Tuesday in numbers delayed by the government shutdown. Job growth totaled a seasonally adjusted 64,000 for the month, better than the Dow Jones estimate of 45,000 and up from a sharp decline in October.

The unemployment rate rose to 4.6%, more than expected and its highest level since September 2021. A more encompassing measure that includes discouraged workers and those holding part-time jobs for economic reasons swelled to 8.7%, its peak going back to August 2021.

In addition to the November report, the BLS released an abbreviated October count that showed payrolls down 105,000. While there was no official estimate, Wall Street economists were largely expecting a decline following a surprise increase of 108,000 in September.



The October slump came from a steep fall in government employment as deferred layoffs instituted earlier this year took effect. Government payrolls were off 162,000 for the month, and fell an additional 6,000 in November.

Read more: https://www.cnbc.com/2025/12/16/jobs-report-november-2025-.html



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8:32 AM · Dec 16, 2025


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Published Tue, Dec 16 20258:32 AM EST Updated 4 Min Ago


Nonfarm payrolls grew slightly more than expected in November, the Bureau of Labor Statistics reported Tuesday in numbers delayed by the government shutdown. Job growth totaled 64,000 for the month, better than the Dow Jones estimate for 45,000.

The unemployment rate rose to 4.6%, more than expected and its highest level since September 2021. A more encompassing measure that includes discouraged workers and those holding part-time jobs for economic reasons swelled to 8.7%, its peak going back to August 2021.

In addition to the November report, the BLS released an abbreviated October count that showed payrolls down 105,000. While there was no official estimate, Wall Street economists were largely expecting a decline following a surprise increase of 108,000 in September.

The October slump came from a steep fall in government employment as deferred layoffs institute earlier this year took effect. Government payrolls were off 162,000 for the month, and fell an additional 6,000 in November.



Published Tue, Dec 16 2025 8:32 AM EST Updated 4 Min Ago


Nonfarm payrolls grew slightly more than expected in November, the Bureau of Labor Statistics reported Tuesday in numbers delayed by the government shutdown. Job growth totaled 64,000 for the month, better than the Dow Jones estimate for 45,000. The unemployment rate rose to 4.6%, more than expected.

In addition to the November report, the BLS released an abbreviated October count that showed payrolls down 105,000. While there was no official estimate, Wall Street economists were largely expecting a decline following a surprise increase of 108,000 in September.

The October slump came from a steep fall in government employment as deferred layoffs institute earlier this year took effect. Government payrolls were off 162,000 for the month, and fell declined an additional 6,000 in November.

Nevertheless, the October decline marked the third time in six months that payrolls saw a net negative level. The BLS report also showed that August's numbers were revised down 22,000 to show a steeper loss of 26,000, while September's initial count was pushed lower by 11,000.


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Payrolls rose by 64,000 in November, more than expected, delayed jobs numbers show

Published Tue, Dec 16 2025 8:32 AM EST


Nonfarm payrolls were expected to increase by 45,000 in November as the unemployment rate rose to 4.5%, according to the Dow Jones consensus.

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So .04% job growth? SSJVegeta Dec 16 #1
We can't trust anything that comes out of that administration mysteryowl Dec 16 #2
Civil servants at BLS are still solid Johnny2X2X Dec 16 #3
ok mysteryowl Dec 16 #4
I think we have a poster here who worked for the BLS Johnny2X2X Dec 16 #7
We have many thousands from the government that lost their jobs this last year to be tallied. mysteryowl Dec 16 #8
I'm sure you're right RedArkGuy Dec 18 #39
No, the acting director of the BLS is William J. Wiatrowski, a long time deputy director progree Dec 18 #40
They lost about 20% of the lower level staff with the "Fork in the Road" stuff BumRushDaShow Dec 16 #9
Came here to say this MaineBlueBear Dec 17 #28
Soon: the last 2 months are always subject to revision in each report, and almost always revised progree Dec 17 #34
The word "delay" sez it all. ananda Dec 17 #31
Sure Jan... maxrandb Dec 16 #5
Yawn...businesses everywhere hire for Christmas every year. Temp jobs at best. Bengus81 Dec 16 #6
The data are sesonally adjusted so they account for the normal seasonal increase Wiz Imp Dec 17 #21
41K Jobs Lost In Oct/Nov, Unemployed Rises To 4.6% mahatmakanejeeves Dec 16 #10
Hard to believe any numbers put out by this administration ..nt Jarqui Dec 16 #11
Hiring for the holiday season. mwmisses4289 Dec 16 #12
The data are sesonally adjusted so they account for the normal seasonal increase Wiz Imp Dec 17 #22
Wait, these aren't numbers nobody ever thought were possible! What's up? Ol Janx Spirit Dec 16 #13
Holiday hiring, happens every year - nt TBF Dec 16 #14
I guess you missed my point--and joke. The numbers seem more in line with... Ol Janx Spirit Dec 16 #16
I clearly need another cup of coffee. TBF Dec 16 #17
Hehehehe. I hear ya! I always need another cup of coffee! Ol Janx Spirit Dec 16 #18
The data are sesonally adjusted so they account for the normal seasonal increase Wiz Imp Dec 17 #23
Ah - that could be. TBF Dec 17 #25
There probably wasn't an increase in jobs. Wiz Imp Dec 17 #27
Their pre-seasonal-adjustment numbers are that jobs increased 679k jn October and 241k in November progree Dec 17 #32
Um. I worked on the CES Program for close to 35 years. Wiz Imp Dec 17 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author progree Dec 17 #36
This message was self-deleted by its author progree Dec 18 #37
. . . progree Dec 18 #41
Another day, another lie. travelingthrulife Dec 16 #15
These are seasonally adjusted numbers, so seasonal hires have been already adjusted for progree Dec 16 #19
Anybody believe anything this administration says? mdbl Dec 16 #20
The unemployment rate has increased by 0.6% since Trump took over in January. Wiz Imp Dec 17 #24
Looks like Trump has trouble getting it up. GreenWave Dec 17 #26
Seems Rebl2 Dec 17 #29
In Biden's 4 years (48 months) there was only 1 month where job growth Wiz Imp Dec 17 #35
Frustrating Rebl2 Dec 18 #42
MaddowBlog-Unemployment rate reaches a four-year high as Trump's economic woes continue LetMyPeopleVote Dec 17 #30
I'm skeptical RedArkGuy Dec 18 #38
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