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23. Yes, if we extend this to other countries with female head s of state in developing countries

Mon Dec 15, 2025, 05:11 PM

Dec 15

It doesn’t look they much better. Most were daughters of founders or previous popular prime ministers (I’m thinking South Asia here).

In the case of japan, their most recent prime minister was not actually heading the party when they got elected.

I think it’s only a few cases like New Zealand where a female got elected outright in an election.

It’s even rarer when the woman that got elected was from the more liberal party. Many female heads of state have been authoritarian in nature. They have to “prove their way” as being “tough”. Basically like Margaret thatcher, the “Iron Lady”.

In short, Pelosi is probably right, but I think the time will come for the right democratic female to get elected president. I’m actually not as pessimistic as her, because we have seen women being elected governor to 32 states. A few of the 18 that haven’t are blue states, and voted for Harris:

18 states have never elected a woman as governor:

California, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Maryland, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Nevada (Harris lost but Hillary won), North Dakota, Pennsylvania, Tennessee, West Virginia, Wisconsin, and Virginia (until 2025 election of Abigail Spanberger).

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Nancy Pelosi calls female US president in her lifetime unlikely: 'Marble ceiling' [View all] BumRushDaShow Dec 15 OP

She is probably correct get the red out Dec 15 #1

She is correct awesomerwb1 Dec 15 #2

I hate to say it but i think the repugs will have a female president before us. Mr. Sparkle Dec 15 #3

I remember saying this to my daughter long ago and she got so very, very mad at me. Still have that opinion. efhmc Dec 15 #13

+1 dalton99a Dec 15 #14

Sadly this old feminist has also given up and on DU I have also advised Dems not to run a female. efhmc Dec 15 #4

ditto. I posted similarly and had one very opinionated male DUer attack me endlessly, as though he was more hlthe2b Dec 15 #5

Your sadly correct. But we always need to remember Hillary WON the popular vote Bengus81 Dec 15 #17

TY! It's better to Remember That even if effin' depressing! electric_blue68 Dec 15 #30

You're not alone in your thoughts! slightlv Dec 15 #19

I don't think she's wrong. MontanaMama Dec 15 #6

Yes ... in my lifetime too FakeNoose Dec 15 #7

So true. The NYT has already called Newsom the front runner. Lonestarblue Dec 15 #9

I like him and I live in the middle of the US. Still pissed about this flag raising for Trump Bengus81 Dec 15 #18

The first democtratic female President is going to have to happen organically, not forced. No thumbs on the scale. ToxMarz Dec 15 #8

Great answer but am not so sure there are enough decent people left who would respond that way any more. efhmc Dec 15 #10

The next election, I don't think anyone is going to take any chances and will be very conservative ToxMarz Dec 15 #12

Sadly her main point is likely right dsc Dec 15 #11

"but I am surprised she didn't realize that a woman speaker was more likely." BumRushDaShow Dec 15 #20

Yes, if we extend this to other countries with female head s of state in developing countries fujiyamasan Dec 15 #23

Ohio belongs on that list too dsc Dec 15 #24

1) She's right LudwigPastorius Dec 15 #15

Nancy Pelosi is 85 years old. Life expectancy... NNadir Dec 15 #16

Actually Hamilton was a citizen at the time of the founding dsc Dec 15 #25

I was wrong. It appears that the wording of the clause would have allowed... NNadir Dec 15 #26

... BumRushDaShow Dec 15 #28

This discourages potential female candidates thought crime Dec 15 #21

I don't think so BumRushDaShow Dec 15 #22

Her lifetime is probably 5-6 years or so. maxsolomon Dec 15 #27

I hope she's wrong gemini_liberal Dec 15 #29

I agree with her, because too many Americans are too stupid to vote for a woman president. And/Or too sexist. raccoon Dec 16 #31

If we do get a female president, it will sadly be a right wing populist. Initech Dec 16 #32