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onenote

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47. You said certiorari had been granted. It hadn't and you have to know that by now. Not even the same case.
Tue Dec 9, 2025, 12:32 AM
Dec 9

Again, show me the petition for cert you claim was filed months ago. You haven't because you can't because it doesn't exist.

In fact, the case in which cert was sought and granted last week isn't even the same case in which you claim cert was granted last June.

The partial stay decision issued in June addressed challenges to the nationwide injunctions granted by three different district courts in three separate cases, each assigned a separate Supreme Court docket number but consolidated for resolution of the challenged nationwide injunction.
Trump v. Casa, Inc., Docket No. 24A884, arising in the District of Maryland
Trump v. Washington, Docket No. 24A885, arising in the Western District of Washington
Trump v New Jersey, Docket No. 24A886, arising in the District Court of Massachusetts

Here is a link to the docket for the cases addressed in the June partial stay order:
https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=/docket/docketfiles/html/public/24a884.html

The cert petition granted last week was filed in a completely separate case, Trump v. Barbara, Docket No.25-365, arising in the US District Court of New Hampshire. Here's a link to that docket.
https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=/docket/docketfiles/html/public/25-365.html

Finally, I'll note again that in her dissent to the June partial stay order, Justice Sotomayor expressed concern as to whether there would ever be a petition for cert filed in the cases before the Court, stating on page 41 that "There is a serious question, moreover, whether this Court will ever get the chance to rule on the constitutionality of a policy like the Citizenship Order." That would be a very strange thing for her to write if cert had "already" been granted.

Finally, why did I find it interesting that no dissents were noted? Well, for one thing, folks tend to be curious as to whether or not any of the justices expressed separate views with respect to the grant or denial of cert. Despite your unfounded belief that I had some ulterior motive, that's it. While we know that Sotomayor, Jackson and Kagan all believe that the executive order is unconstitutional, and there is no reason to think they have changed their minds, we don't know whether or not they opposed or supported the grant of cert. There are reasons for not them not to have opposed it given that the issue was arising in multiple courts and denying cert, which has no precedntial value, would not have stopped such cases from going forward at considerable cost and with a modicum of uncertainty for the plaintiffs. Having the Supreme Court address the matter once and for all without waiting for case after case to come down may have been reason for granting cert, although none of us can say for sure. All we know, which is all I pointed out, is that none of the justices noted a dissent to the grant of cert. If having that information offends you, so be it.

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SCOTUS Sycophant Six plan to tamper with birthright citizenship, otherwise dobleremolque Dec 5 #1
Pretty sure we all know the answer Endlessmike56 Dec 5 #2
You're exactly right. PSPS Dec 5 #7
13th, 14th and 15th are invalid? Retrograde Dec 5 #13
He'll cite another 17th century Brit jurist wolfie001 Dec 5 #25
'Executive Orders as Lawmaking' needs to end C_U_L8R Dec 5 #3
This court, this regime 31st Street Bridge Dec 5 #4
They are making their move to completely take over our laws bluestarone Dec 5 #5
Precedence... Republicans say that Hitler did some good things. Norrrm Dec 5 #6
I have to believe they will rule against Trump iemanja Dec 5 #8
Impeaching them would just have the Republicans blocking it (nt) muriel_volestrangler Dec 5 #9
I didn't mean now iemanja Dec 5 #14
Impeachment needs two thirds in the Senate muriel_volestrangler Dec 5 #17
You're probably right. iemanja Dec 5 #21
Such a ruling would instantly make the court powerless and irrelevant Fiendish Thingy Dec 5 #11
Has a transition team been assigned for when he, well, you know, croaks. twodogsbarking Dec 5 #10
Roughly like this? muriel_volestrangler Dec 5 #12
No dissents to the grant of certiorari were noted. onenote Dec 5 #15
SCOTUS already granted certiorari months ago for the injunction issue (with vociferous dissents from the 3 liberals). SunSeeker Dec 5 #29
You are mistaken. onenote Dec 5 #32
It is you who is mistaken. There is absolutely no basis to suggest that Sotomayor, Jackson and Kagan have flipped. SunSeeker Dec 6 #33
I'm absolutely, positively not wrong. onenote Dec 6 #35
Sotomayor, Jackson and Kagan have not flipped. You are dead wrong in suggesting they did. nt SunSeeker Dec 6 #36
Wow. Just wow. onenote Dec 6 #38
You started this be saying no dissents were noted. What was your point other than to suggest they flipped? SunSeeker Dec 7 #39
My point was to make clear no one had noted a dissent. Nothing more or less. onenote Dec 7 #40
So you just made a pointless post. Got it. nt SunSeeker Dec 7 #41
And you stand by your lie about when cert was granted. Got it. nt onenote Dec 7 #43
I didn't lie about when cert was granted. I'm not the one telling lies here. nt SunSeeker Dec 8 #44
Yeah you did. onenote Dec 8 #45
No I didn't. As I said, the prior ruling, with 3 dissents, involved the exact same Executive Order. SunSeeker Dec 8 #46
You said certiorari had been granted. It hadn't and you have to know that by now. Not even the same case. onenote Dec 9 #47
The cases are all about the same birthright citizenship EO. It's all a bullshit game by the SCOTUS conservatives. SunSeeker Dec 9 #48
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This is the litmus test case I have been fearing. TomSlick Dec 5 #22
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While they are at it just give him immunity..............oh yeah the 6 maga POS already did that........... turbinetree Dec 5 #24
Absolutely disgusting. There is no reason to take up Trump's patently ridiculous argument. SunSeeker Dec 5 #26
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Imo, fwiw, which is nothing... lonely bird Dec 6 #37
These people are partisan political operatives... RetiredParatrooper Dec 7 #42
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