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xocetaceans

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21. To be clearer, my post indicates that the knowledge a person needs to have in order to carry out what you seem . . .
Sat Dec 6, 2025, 12:53 AM
Dec 6

. . . to want to follow as policy seems to be unachievable. I wasn't asking you to make a decision: I was asking you to defend the practicality of handling the situation in the way that you seem to want to.

Beyond that, "largely unnecessary" is seemingly a pretty pat way to sweep the whole problem under the rug. Whether it is necessary or not depends on each person's knowledge of their immediate environment and all likely future environments. One mistake in that arena can lead to infection and to disease.

So, what percentage of 3.6 million would you willingly sacrifice yearly on the altar to personal choice you've erected? How many sick kids? Moreover, does this mean that you would be willing to pay for the medical care and coffins that might well result from your policy of 'wait until its too late to prevent the disease'?

Maybe I am taking your position incorrectly, but it seems as if you have an axe to grind against the entire notion of public health. In spite of the fact that we in this country cannot seem to achieve the wisdom or grace to establish universal healthcare for all in this country (and rid ourselves of the "health insurance industry" (rather, the health extortion racket would be a more proper name for them), we are truly in this together. Having a non-discriminatory public health system open to all is a critical part of that. So, if you act against the basic ideas of public health on some epistemically fanciful grounds wishing for some unachievable perfect knowledge to make the choices that you want to arrogate purely to the individual in spite of the lack of risk posed by safe and effective vaccines, you really do not want universal healthcare in this country, but seemingly rather some sort of libertarian hellscape of partial coverage based on preserving personal choice in the face of the needless deaths of others.

But, hey, maybe I am wrong about your position . . . and you're not really a libertarian or a secret anti-vaxxer.

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Illinois has enacted snowybirdie Dec 5 #1
Parents should demand their pediatricians follow the Illinois vaccination schedule. FarPoint Dec 5 #3
There are a couple "regional" health alliances/colaboratives BumRushDaShow Dec 5 #5
And yet he might be right about this one. TheRickles Dec 5 #2
Agree on this one vaccine- totally unnecessary unless the mother was at risk as a drug abuser biophile Dec 5 #4
So, your theory is that you can perfectly identify a subgroup of babies which ought to be given protection? xocetaceans Dec 5 #10
No, it's not for me personally to decide biophile Dec 5 #12
To be clearer, my post indicates that the knowledge a person needs to have in order to carry out what you seem . . . xocetaceans Dec 6 #21
Definitely not a libertarian or anti-vax; no ax to grind biophile Dec 6 #22
Some HepB + mothers aren't tested. Or they have false-negative results. mainer Dec 5 #6
Asian Americans are at higher risk. deurbano Dec 5 #7
So, your theory is that you can perfectly identify a subgroup of babies which ought to be given protection? What . . . xocetaceans Dec 5 #8
Utter hogwash. You don't know what you're talking about. PSPS Dec 5 #13
Wait a minute... maybe I misunderstood you... slightlv Dec 5 #16
What damage does giving every baby the Hep B vaccine cause? NickB79 Dec 5 #20
I should say that Magatry is a murder-suicide cult. ananda Dec 5 #9
I think waiting till babies are older is a good idea womanofthehills Dec 5 #11
Oh, please. The liver damage can already be happeinig before babies "are older." PSPS Dec 5 #14
Fevers are scary. But they are only one indicator in a myriad of symptoms used to diagnose problems. ... littlemissmartypants Dec 5 #17
U.S. Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is a baby killer. nt SunSeeker Dec 5 #15
So which ones will need it then? mdbl Dec 5 #18
In a brutal week for public health, the chairman on the Senate health committee could act. So why doesn't he? https://bs LetMyPeopleVote Dec 5 #19
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