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onenote

(45,996 posts)
32. You are mistaken.
Fri Dec 5, 2025, 11:53 PM
Dec 5

Preliminary nationwide injunctions were issued in three cases in early 2025 with respect to the Trump executive order on birthright citizenship: Trump V. Washington, Trump v. Casa, Inc., and Trump v. New Jersey.

On March 13, 2025, the government filed with the Supreme Court an application for a partial stay of the injunction issued in the Casa case, albeit with an acknowledgment that a decision on the issue of a nationwide injunction in that case also would apply to the other two cases. The case was assigned Docket No. 25-113. The Court's decision, issued on June 27, 2025, granted the partial stay. It expressly disclaimed going any further, with both the majority and dissents acknowledging that no petition for certiorari had yet been filed, not surprisingly since the merits of the legality of the executive order was still pending in the district courts.

It was only on September 26, 2025, after yet another district court, in another case brought by another plaintiff -- the District of New Hampshire, with "Barbara" as the representative of a class action -- had issued a preliminary injunction that Trump filed a petition for certiorari before judgment -- that is before a ruling by the First Circuit on a challenge to the New Hampshire District Court case. An identical, simultaneous petition for cert was filed with respect to the District of Washington case, which had been affirmed on remand by the Ninth Circuit in July 2025. These two cases were assigned docket numbers 25-365 and 25-364.

These two petitions for certiorari, effectively consolidated as one, were presented to the Court for consideration in conference on December 1. That is the first, and only time, that the Court considered a petition for certiorari on the decisions on the underlying merits issue relating to the legality of the executive order. That petition was granted today.

It is not a procedural step related to the June ruling. It is a ruling in a different case on a different issue. The three liberal justices dissented from the order on the nationwide injunction. At the time they made it clear that they believed that the executive order was unconstitutional. But they also expressed concern that the issue might never end up being brought to the Supreme Court depending on the outcome in the lower courts. In effect, they essentially challenged the government to file a petition for cert if, as they expected would be the case, the lower courts ruled that the executive order was unconstitutional. Thus, while I think that they still adhere to the view that the lower court decisions were correct, the fact that they did not use the occasion of the grant of certiorari to argue that the Court shouldn't take up the case is interesting/

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SCOTUS Sycophant Six plan to tamper with birthright citizenship, otherwise dobleremolque Dec 5 #1
Pretty sure we all know the answer Endlessmike56 Dec 5 #2
You're exactly right. PSPS Dec 5 #7
13th, 14th and 15th are invalid? Retrograde Dec 5 #13
He'll cite another 17th century Brit jurist wolfie001 Dec 5 #25
'Executive Orders as Lawmaking' needs to end C_U_L8R Dec 5 #3
This court, this regime 31st Street Bridge Dec 5 #4
They are making their move to completely take over our laws bluestarone Dec 5 #5
Precedence... Republicans say that Hitler did some good things. Norrrm Dec 5 #6
I have to believe they will rule against Trump iemanja Dec 5 #8
Impeaching them would just have the Republicans blocking it (nt) muriel_volestrangler Dec 5 #9
I didn't mean now iemanja Dec 5 #14
Impeachment needs two thirds in the Senate muriel_volestrangler Dec 5 #17
You're probably right. iemanja Dec 5 #21
Such a ruling would instantly make the court powerless and irrelevant Fiendish Thingy Dec 5 #11
Has a transition team been assigned for when he, well, you know, croaks. twodogsbarking Dec 5 #10
Roughly like this? muriel_volestrangler Dec 5 #12
No dissents to the grant of certiorari were noted. onenote Dec 5 #15
SCOTUS already granted certiorari months ago for the injunction issue (with vociferous dissents from the 3 liberals). SunSeeker Dec 5 #29
You are mistaken. onenote Dec 5 #32
It is you who is mistaken. There is absolutely no basis to suggest that Sotomayor, Jackson and Kagan have flipped. SunSeeker Dec 6 #33
I'm absolutely, positively not wrong. onenote Dec 6 #35
Sotomayor, Jackson and Kagan have not flipped. You are dead wrong in suggesting they did. nt SunSeeker Dec 6 #36
Wow. Just wow. onenote Dec 6 #38
You started this be saying no dissents were noted. What was your point other than to suggest they flipped? SunSeeker Dec 7 #39
My point was to make clear no one had noted a dissent. Nothing more or less. onenote Dec 7 #40
So you just made a pointless post. Got it. nt SunSeeker Dec 7 #41
And you stand by your lie about when cert was granted. Got it. nt onenote Dec 7 #43
I didn't lie about when cert was granted. I'm not the one telling lies here. nt SunSeeker Dec 8 #44
Yeah you did. onenote Dec 8 #45
No I didn't. As I said, the prior ruling, with 3 dissents, involved the exact same Executive Order. SunSeeker Dec 8 #46
You said certiorari had been granted. It hadn't and you have to know that by now. Not even the same case. onenote Dec 9 #47
The cases are all about the same birthright citizenship EO. It's all a bullshit game by the SCOTUS conservatives. SunSeeker Dec 9 #48
john brown's body struggle4progress Dec 5 #16
Battle Cry of Freedom struggle4progress Dec 5 #18
Marching Through Georgia struggle4progress Dec 5 #19
Nazi Punks Fuck Off struggle4progress Dec 5 #20
This is the litmus test case I have been fearing. TomSlick Dec 5 #22
Originalists, my ass! WTF is there to decide? OMGWTF Dec 5 #23
While they are at it just give him immunity..............oh yeah the 6 maga POS already did that........... turbinetree Dec 5 #24
Absolutely disgusting. There is no reason to take up Trump's patently ridiculous argument. SunSeeker Dec 5 #26
They took this case in order to overturn the law. johnnyfins Dec 5 #27
It just takes four to agree to take a case Dangling0826 Dec 5 #28
Asking seriously: which is easier... Shipwack Dec 5 #30
Expansion is by simple Congressional legislation. Blasphemer Dec 6 #34
Practical Aspect Considerations DallasNE Dec 5 #31
Imo, fwiw, which is nothing... lonely bird Dec 6 #37
These people are partisan political operatives... RetiredParatrooper Dec 7 #42
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