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Fiendish Thingy

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11. Such a ruling would instantly make the court powerless and irrelevant

Fri Dec 5, 2025, 03:58 PM

Dec 5

If they rule against black-letter constitutional rights (never done before AFAIK) that confer citizenship to all born on US soil, then NO constitutional right is protected, including the sacred second amendment.

If no right is protected, and subject to the whims of the executive, then the constitution is essentially null and void, and there is no role for the court.

I don’t see them committing judicial suicide with such a ruling.

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Supreme Court agrees to decide if Trump may end birthright citizenship [View all] muriel_volestrangler Dec 5 OP

SCOTUS Sycophant Six plan to tamper with birthright citizenship, otherwise dobleremolque Dec 5 #1

Pretty sure we all know the answer Endlessmike56 Dec 5 #2

You're exactly right. PSPS Dec 5 #7

13th, 14th and 15th are invalid? Retrograde Dec 5 #13

He'll cite another 17th century Brit jurist wolfie001 Dec 5 #25

'Executive Orders as Lawmaking' needs to end C_U_L8R Dec 5 #3

This court, this regime 31st Street Bridge Dec 5 #4

They are making their move to completely take over our laws bluestarone Dec 5 #5

Precedence... Republicans say that Hitler did some good things. Norrrm Dec 5 #6

I have to believe they will rule against Trump iemanja Dec 5 #8

Impeaching them would just have the Republicans blocking it (nt) muriel_volestrangler Dec 5 #9

I didn't mean now iemanja Dec 5 #14

Impeachment needs two thirds in the Senate muriel_volestrangler Dec 5 #17

You're probably right. iemanja Dec 5 #21

Such a ruling would instantly make the court powerless and irrelevant Fiendish Thingy Dec 5 #11

Has a transition team been assigned for when he, well, you know, croaks. twodogsbarking Dec 5 #10

Roughly like this? muriel_volestrangler Dec 5 #12

No dissents to the grant of certiorari were noted. onenote Dec 5 #15

SCOTUS already granted certiorari months ago for the injunction issue (with vociferous dissents from the 3 liberals). SunSeeker Dec 5 #29

You are mistaken. onenote Dec 5 #32

It is you who is mistaken. There is absolutely no basis to suggest that Sotomayor, Jackson and Kagan have flipped. SunSeeker Dec 6 #33

I'm absolutely, positively not wrong. onenote Dec 6 #35

Sotomayor, Jackson and Kagan have not flipped. You are dead wrong in suggesting they did. nt SunSeeker Dec 6 #36

Wow. Just wow. onenote Dec 6 #38

You started this be saying no dissents were noted. What was your point other than to suggest they flipped? SunSeeker Dec 7 #39

My point was to make clear no one had noted a dissent. Nothing more or less. onenote Dec 7 #40

So you just made a pointless post. Got it. nt SunSeeker Dec 7 #41

And you stand by your lie about when cert was granted. Got it. nt onenote Dec 7 #43

I didn't lie about when cert was granted. I'm not the one telling lies here. nt SunSeeker Dec 8 #44

Yeah you did. onenote Dec 8 #45

No I didn't. As I said, the prior ruling, with 3 dissents, involved the exact same Executive Order. SunSeeker Dec 8 #46

You said certiorari had been granted. It hadn't and you have to know that by now. Not even the same case. onenote Dec 9 #47

The cases are all about the same birthright citizenship EO. It's all a bullshit game by the SCOTUS conservatives. SunSeeker Dec 9 #48

john brown's body struggle4progress Dec 5 #16

Battle Cry of Freedom struggle4progress Dec 5 #18

Marching Through Georgia struggle4progress Dec 5 #19

Nazi Punks Fuck Off struggle4progress Dec 5 #20

This is the litmus test case I have been fearing. TomSlick Dec 5 #22

Originalists, my ass! WTF is there to decide? OMGWTF Dec 5 #23

While they are at it just give him immunity..............oh yeah the 6 maga POS already did that........... turbinetree Dec 5 #24

Absolutely disgusting. There is no reason to take up Trump's patently ridiculous argument. SunSeeker Dec 5 #26

They took this case in order to overturn the law. johnnyfins Dec 5 #27

It just takes four to agree to take a case Dangling0826 Dec 5 #28

Asking seriously: which is easier... Shipwack Dec 5 #30

Expansion is by simple Congressional legislation. Blasphemer Dec 6 #34

Practical Aspect Considerations DallasNE Dec 5 #31

Imo, fwiw, which is nothing... lonely bird Dec 6 #37

These people are partisan political operatives... RetiredParatrooper Dec 7 #42