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In reply to the discussion: Trump administration deports hundreds of migrants even as judge orders that removals be stopped [View all]cadoman
(1,617 posts)7. you do know that the ACLU battled a far more extreme use of this power and lost, right?
https://www.aclu.org/cases/al-aulaqi-v-panetta-constitutional-challenge-killing-three-us-citizens
"We" is Democrats who see that the battle to fight Trump has become so unfocused and directionless that we are hitting ourselves in the face. The general public will think we are insane if we can't acknowledge when he is doing something correct. I contend that any Democratic administration would ensure we are similarly protected from TdA.
TdA does not have a constitutional right to operate across our borders as it pleases.
"We" is Democrats who see that the battle to fight Trump has become so unfocused and directionless that we are hitting ourselves in the face. The general public will think we are insane if we can't acknowledge when he is doing something correct. I contend that any Democratic administration would ensure we are similarly protected from TdA.
TdA does not have a constitutional right to operate across our borders as it pleases.
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Trump administration deports hundreds of migrants even as judge orders that removals be stopped [View all]
BumRushDaShow
Mar 2025
OP
No. It's. Not. -- executive is not obligated to follow an unconstitutional judicial order
cadoman
Mar 2025
#5
Honest question: What was illegal about the deportation of the "Venezuelan gang members?"
Polybius
Mar 2025
#14
What was "illegal" was the use of the "Alien Enemies Act of 1798" to do it
BumRushDaShow
Mar 2025
#20
When I saw saw your reply, I was literally listening to a local news radio report on this very subject
BumRushDaShow
Mar 2025
#23
While your intent may be laudable your understanding of the legal case at hand and
moniss
Mar 2025
#16
that is essentially what the EO asserts, it uses the term "hybrid criminal state" (nt)
cadoman
Mar 2025
#31
I don't believe they are all gang members any more than I believe "their eating the cats and dogs".
Cobalt Violet
Mar 2025
#24
"It would be a mistake to use our political capital protecting TdA terrorists"
BumRushDaShow
Mar 2025
#3
you do know that the ACLU battled a far more extreme use of this power and lost, right?
cadoman
Mar 2025
#7
agree, and the plaintiffs will have to prove that TdA is an independent org from Venezuela
cadoman
Mar 2025
#37
we have a shit-ton of overcrowded and poorly-funded facilities that desperately need to be improved
cadoman
Mar 2025
#10
The problem -AGAIN- is the use of the authority from the "Alien Enemies Act of 1798"
BumRushDaShow
Mar 2025
#34