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EX500rider

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30. This was posted over at Airliners.net:

Sat Jan 11, 2025, 08:49 PM

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The final report of the bird strike accident of Ryanair 4102 on short final has some interesting suggestions, what do do, when you encounter bird strike on short final:

Quote Boeing's recommendations (page 90):

In case of bird strikes during approach or landing, the following suggestion is given: "If the landing is assured continuing the approcah to landing is the preferred option..."

Quote fron Airbus' recommendations (page 91):

The prevention strategies indicated in this regard suggest, in case of birds presence in short final, not to go around, but to penetrate/fly through the flock and continue for landing, trying to maintain a low engine setting."

Quote from the UK CAA recommendations (page 91):

At approach thrust settings ingested birds may baypass the engine core via the fan reducing the likelihood of serious damage. If birds are encountered at approach thrust settings and landing can be made with that thrust setting, continue through the flock and complete the landing.

So it looks like hitting birds at TOGA settings is the worst case.

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179 dead in South Korea's worst plane crash in years [View all] EX500rider Dec 29 OP

Maybe South Korea need to have Falconers to work the Airports Oneear Dec 29 #1

Video of the /landing/crash: EX500rider Dec 29 #2

Mayday went out 4 minutes before the crash. LudwigPastorius Dec 29 #13

Looks like flaps are down in the bird strike/compressor stall vid EX500rider Dec 29 #14

Yeah I suspect there may have been some tunnel vision over engine restart... EX500rider Dec 29 #15

DEAR GOD!..Didn't they have time to foam the runway?..I guess probably not. chouchou Dec 29 #3

This message was self-deleted by its author bamagal62 Dec 29 #10

In this case foaming the runway would have extended the slide, not helpful in this case IMO EX500rider Dec 29 #11

Tragic. bamagal62 Dec 29 #12

The left vid here seems to capture the bird strike in the right engine: EX500rider Dec 29 #4

Some speculation that the gear up was a oversight: EX500rider Dec 29 #5

The video of the crash is horrific. Jacson6 Dec 29 #6

Another view of the landing from the other side EX500rider Dec 29 #7

If it's Boeing . . . Richard D Dec 29 #8

737-800 has a generally strong safety record, largely due to mature technology. EX500rider Dec 29 #9

I'm thinking electrical problem jmowreader Dec 29 #16

That would require no engines, no APU and bad backup batteries? EX500rider Dec 29 #18

737 pilot gave a synopsis: EX500rider Dec 29 #17

It's pretty much a given more people would have survived had the berm not been there Major Nikon Dec 29 #19

While i agree... EX500rider Dec 30 #20

The antennas almost certainly were mounted on frangible supports Major Nikon Dec 30 #21

Yeah but they were already on approach.. EX500rider Dec 30 #22

They were able to climb which means at least one of the engines was making power at least initially Major Nikon Dec 31 #23

I understand them wanting to keep the hull clean to extend glide... EX500rider Dec 31 #25

From the time of the mayday call to crash was only 2-3 mins Major Nikon Jan 2 #27

Well I'd say as soon as possible would have been before the go around.. EX500rider Jan 2 #28

This was posted over at Airliners.net: EX500rider Saturday #30

Crazy year for air crashes RazorbackExpat Dec 31 #24

Very sad Demovictory9 Dec 31 #26

Well the crash investigation just got a lot harder: EX500rider Saturday #29