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BumRushDaShow

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57. Note this
Tue Dec 17, 2024, 02:59 PM
Dec 17
Judging by all the assholes shining laser pointers at aircraft in the world, I imagine there would be assholes who find joy in interfering with manned aircraft.


That has been my main take here. But what has magnified this that I discovered (and posted about) a couple days ago was this - https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143357038

Mayorkas cited the 2023 change of a Federal Aviation Administration rule that allows drones to fly at night as to why there might be an uptick in sightings.


I had no idea. Literally last year, these remote craft were NOW permitted to "fly at night". So now you have the buzz-buzzes out and about 24/7 and of course at night, when they have lights on, they are visible.

Once people started reporting them, that obviously encouraged people who never normally cared, to go outside and "look". And if they are not familiar with the sky in their areas, then they WILL misidentify flight paths of planes, etc.

I live near 3 airports and am under the flight paths of all 3 and am used to seeing that fascinating drumbeat of perfectly timed (and spaced) planes coming/going to all 3. But most people might not be.

I have been a weather hobbyist for almost 55 years and interact with some guys on my weather forum, plus watch storm chasers, who have quadcopters that they use to survey the weather, and in the latter case, to get video of storm damage. The videos and stills have generally been during the daytime but recently, I started seeing some "night shots".

Hell... DU's own BoZarts (formerly DemoTex) got a quadcopter for his firetower/lookout and has periodically posted pics from it.

So why is the US government, including the Air Force, having such a hard time tracking down the drones and their "pilots"?

I don't think the tech needs an upgrade as much as much as the authorities need to level with We the People. They are whistling in the dark if they don't think these things are a potential hazard to navigation and national security.

My guess is that it's not a simple question of finding a few bad actors. Some of these reports indicate they are part of a phenomenon that has interacted with humanity for time immemorial.


Remember that the law authorizing these things didn't get passd until 2012, so they are STILL "relatively new".

You also have a situation that each government agency has its "wheelhouse". Everything has been directed at the "security" (DHS) and "military" (DOD) people for some reason, completely ignoring the FAA. The FAA regulates those things and IMHO, Pete should be out there or they should at least create a little "taskforce" and partner with the overarching agencies to put out a single "message" to cover various aspects.

The average person in a suburban neighborhood doesn't necessarily care about some "drone" (in quotes) dropping a bomb on their house but might be concerned about a "peeping Tom" thing buzzing over their backyard.

I.e., are they "casing the place" for a future robbery? THAT is a real concern.

I always laughed about the old-fashioned 1950s/60s "model airplanes" that (rich surburban) kids had which had all kinds of sophisticated controls, but they didn't have GoPros on them.

Now you have the "modern" versions (I noticed in the below video that some of the shots in the sequences had little "chaser" quadcopters recording video of the RC planes landing, including a few wipeouts trying to keep up ) -



And add to that the various small 'copters that can hover - the "hover" capability being the bigger issue when it comes to dealing with these RC craft.

People act like these things don't exist and then start talking about people having "mass hysteria about UFOs" and other stuff and if they do accept they are out there, assume "everyone" who has one is "on the up and up", with no nefarious intent.

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Isn't that where an alien space ship is supposed to be stored? Sneederbunk Dec 16 #1
Yes, per Wikipedia Dennis Donovan Dec 16 #3
And it's all documented in a bathroom at Mar a Lago. Sneederbunk Dec 16 #4
this johnnyfins Dec 16 #29
winning this thread !! (and all others like it) -(nt)- stopdiggin Dec 17 #34
Good one. Frank D. Lincoln Dec 17 #41
Huh?? Not the location in Independance Day!! Just ask Dr. Okun...eh...damn,he's dead. Bengus81 Dec 17 #49
If the FBI knows foreign governments aren't behind the drones... Happy Hoosier Dec 16 #2
Exactly... anciano Dec 16 #5
What they have said is that the drones are not being launched from foreign craft.... reACTIONary Dec 16 #13
The secrecy is puzzling, yes. Irish_Dem Dec 16 #20
Really? I thought it was an Iranian johnnyfins Dec 16 #30
Time to liberate Iran from the Iranians... /nt artemisia1 Dec 17 #37
OK, so not US military or foreign government, then who? IronLionZion Dec 16 #6
Some contractors that may soon be working with the government? n/t AntiFascist Dec 16 #9
One theory is it's a company that makes large drones and is testing them out. IronLionZion Dec 17 #42
then why close the Air Force base? TommyT139 Dec 17 #46
Exactly, and if the government knows for a fact that they aren't a threat... AntiFascist Dec 17 #53
There is tons of attention on it now IronLionZion Dec 17 #56
Just recently some kids were arrested for flying a drone... reACTIONary Dec 16 #14
I didn't hear how close they were. The FAA rule years ago was 5 miles or 5 nautical miles one or the other... Bengus81 Dec 17 #50
Muskrat wanting Marshall Law Blue Full Moon Dec 17 #38
It's aliens looking for their dead, to take them home. republianmushroom Dec 16 #7
Took them long enough. Rozwell was 77 years ago. Irish_Dem Dec 16 #21
Better late than never. republianmushroom Dec 16 #23
Roswell aliens should have dialed for an intergalactic Uber. Irish_Dem Dec 16 #25
"Roswell was 77 years ago...." TommyT139 Dec 17 #47
Yes. They could be right on time in their time/space continuum. Irish_Dem Dec 17 #48
Put Spongebob's chocolate bars on them. GreenWave Dec 16 #24
airport drone shut downs NJCher Dec 16 #8
Probably just the Pleiades, they often close airports if they get too bright Blues Heron Dec 16 #10
Pellucidar Blue Full Moon Dec 17 #40
The answer to the drone question is pretty simple. Ojerly Dec 16 #11
The Pentagon already said they are not theirs SamuelTheThird Dec 16 #12
That isn't plausable. The military doesn't conduct.. reACTIONary Dec 16 #15
Classified briefings to discuss kid's drones? SamuelTheThird Dec 16 #16
Help me out here. This post is about.... reACTIONary Dec 16 #17
You're just inventing suppositions SamuelTheThird Dec 16 #18
It is the same sort of incident, based on the newspaper reports... reACTIONary Dec 16 #19
the 'classified briefings' are being held stopdiggin Dec 17 #35
Yes but why conduct covert operations in such a public way? Irish_Dem Dec 16 #22
We are going to find out that these sightings are just rich dudes flying personal flying drones... William Gustafson Dec 16 #26
This! WestMichRad Dec 16 #32
Why is no one in the media reporting muskrats Kimbal brother owns a drone company that someone reported earlier kimbutgar Dec 16 #27
Elon will be awarded a large contract to figure 33taw Dec 16 #28
Are they drones? Shoonra Dec 16 #31
actually there have been identifications and arrests. (just not near enough of them) -(nt)- stopdiggin Dec 17 #36
Really? Alien or foreign spy drones? Aussie105 Dec 16 #33
Drone sightings confirmed over Hill Air Force Base in Utah LunaSea Dec 17 #39
Gee. WPAFB is about the most air-savvy place in America. Kid Berwyn Dec 17 #43
"So. How could a few pissant drones shut down the operation?" BumRushDaShow Dec 17 #44
Not really my point, but how does one fly drones onto restricted air space? Kid Berwyn Dec 17 #45
"Not really my point, but how does one fly drones onto restricted air space?" BumRushDaShow Dec 17 #51
The drones came back to WPAFB last night. Kid Berwyn Dec 17 #52
Not mocking you here get the red out Dec 17 #54
Thanks. Don't blame you or anyone for the absurdity of the topic of UFOs. Kid Berwyn Dec 17 #55
Note this BumRushDaShow Dec 17 #57
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