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64. But was it in fact 'rape', in your personal opinion ?

Sat Dec 14, 2024, 10:49 PM

Dec 14

As I recall, the presiding judge thought so.

Regardless of the technicalities of New York state rape law,
I think that a jury assigned to this liable case,
who aren't lawyers either, and are more governed by common sense
would have been hard-put to have found in Trump's favor.

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ABC agrees to give $15 million to Donald Trump's presidential library to settle defamation lawsuit [View all] BumRushDaShow Dec 14 OP

Ugh. sinkingfeeling Dec 14 #1

Is this the lawsuit that is related to a judge just ruling that 45 has to appear for a deposition next week? in2herbs Dec 14 #2

Yes FBaggins Dec 14 #23

I have no words mcar Dec 14 #3

Joining you. Dem2theMax Dec 14 #5

With apologies to Peter Tosh frisbee7 Dec 14 #4

And with loving tribute and admiration to DU (as well as HOPEFULLY the rest of the Dems) for the next 4 and beyond... Montauk6 Dec 14 #8

The slimeball can barely read so what will they put in that "library"? Dave Bowman Dec 14 #6

His Twitter account access dweller Dec 14 #31

donnie says forget the library, just hand over the cash and he'll figure out what to do with it nt orleans Dec 14 #63

This message was self-deleted by its author AdamGG Dec 14 #70

Stolen AdamGG Dec 14 #71

A library that will never be built. MontanaMama Dec 14 #7

One million goes toward the library and the rest directly into T***p's pockets. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Dec 14 #50

Oh, FFS. tanyev Dec 14 #9

How many colorin' books does that buy? 3Hotdogs Dec 14 #10

Does ABC's settlement put pressure on George S. to let go? no_hypocrisy Dec 14 #11

TSF will now use this in his 83 million dollar judgement against him from the defamation verdict Deuxcents Dec 14 #12

You mean use to money to pay the judgment? SunSeeker Dec 14 #18

No. I meant in his rants about how great he thinks he is Deuxcents Dec 14 #20

I'm confused angrychair Dec 14 #13

Similarly confused. Lucky Luciano Dec 14 #14

I think it was the slightly lesser charge of sexual assault Polybius Dec 14 #52

The jury found him liable angrychair Dec 14 #54

Gotcha, but because the jury also said "no" to the rape charge, he likely would have won the lawsuit Polybius Dec 14 #57

the Bushes got rid of Dan Rather rustbeltvoice Dec 14 #15

beyond satire jvill Dec 14 #16

Wait ... A Donald Trump library? Bok_Tukalo Dec 14 #17

For this thread LetMyPeopleVote Dec 14 #35

Wow, ABC basically gave Trump a $16M bribe. SunSeeker Dec 14 #19

Very clever actually. Lucky Luciano Dec 14 #25

drumpf library JoseBalow Dec 14 #21

This is craziness. I got nothin" . Evolve Dammit Dec 14 #22

From the "New York Times": mahatmakanejeeves Dec 14 #24

Apology statement will be published online, not aired LetMyPeopleVote Dec 14 #34

America's new name: United States of Folded Lawn Chairs. Irish_Dem Dec 14 #26

He is such a festering piece of garbage. I hope nobody visits. Initech Dec 14 #27

Maybe they can teach Trump to read. bucolic_frolic Dec 14 #28

IMO, capitulation by ABC in order to take the heat off of them going forward. walkingman Dec 14 #29

that's what i think too......... Takket Dec 14 #39

Hell, i'm just considering this bluestarone Dec 14 #30

Ridiculous underpants Dec 14 #32

This contribution is to be held in escrow until trump establishes a 501(c)3 entity to build library LetMyPeopleVote Dec 14 #33

But was he not found civilly liable for raping Carroll? PortTack Dec 14 #36

No - he was found liable for sexually assaulting her FBaggins Dec 14 #40

No, he was found liable for "sexual abuse" under NY law, which the judge said was rape. SunSeeker Dec 15 #90

The problem with that is that another jury would be involved FBaggins Dec 15 #93

If the judge can say the jury found Trump raped her, so can Stephanopoulos. SunSeeker Dec 15 #94

So says the circular reasoning or confirmation bias - but again... there's a Miami jury involved FBaggins Dec 15 #104

Talk about circular reasoning...how the fuck would he have ANY damages? SunSeeker Dec 15 #106

Yes. Carroll's judge said the jury found Trump raped her. SunSeeker Dec 15 #89

WTAF?!?!?!? CaptainTruth Dec 14 #37

"inaccurate on-air assertion" - How many thousands (millions?) of those has Faux News made?!?!? CaptainTruth Dec 14 #38

Lots of them FBaggins Dec 14 #41

The only instance I know of, where FucksNews was ever held accountable. Jack Valentino Dec 14 #53

Settlements are often confidential- but it's hardly the only one FBaggins Dec 14 #67

So when does everyone maligned by fox news start suing? Hieronymus Phact Dec 14 #42

Yes. Every top Dem has been slandered countless times on air LymphocyteLover Dec 15 #96

Cowards LPBBEAR Dec 14 #43

This is so much Bullshit ass kidding that big fat evil orange ass! kimbutgar Dec 14 #44

Dear God Botany Dec 14 #45

He's going to have a "library??" Since when??? Rhiannon12866 Dec 14 #46

What library????? bdamomma Dec 14 #47

What was incorrect about George's statement? Orrex Dec 14 #48

Nothing Cirsium Dec 14 #49

See post 40 Polybius Dec 14 #55

He said 'the jury found him liable for rape' That is factually incorrect. The jury was asked 2 questions #1 was DJT kelly1mm Dec 14 #59

Nothing. Carroll's judge said the jury found Trump raped her. SunSeeker Dec 15 #91

It should read... ABC agrees to pay blackmail request. yourout Dec 14 #51

ABC was in the wrong. Groundhawg Dec 14 #56

TRUMP DIDN'T HAVE A CASE in my humble "I am not a lawyer" opinion... Jack Valentino Dec 14 #58

He said 'the jury found him liable for rape' That is factually incorrect. The jury was asked 2 questions #1 was DJT kelly1mm Dec 14 #60

The disagreement is semantics, between the 'legal' and the common sense defininition Jack Valentino Dec 14 #61

You are not misinformed on the issue of digital (finger) penetration. That is not rape under NY law. My understanding kelly1mm Dec 14 #62

But was it in fact 'rape', in your personal opinion ? Jack Valentino Dec 14 #64

I know you said that you are not a lawyer. Thus you may not know that juries are given what are called kelly1mm Dec 14 #66

Yes, I understand that. I also understand that juries sometimes ignore 'jury instructions', Jack Valentino Dec 14 #68

Yes I understand that DJT's liable case was DEFINATELY NOT a slam dunk. Hard to show the actual malace kelly1mm Dec 14 #69

And I submit that you are likely 'factually correct' on the technicalities Jack Valentino Dec 14 #72

Yes. A good conversation. The 15M is going to charity. However that charity is President Trump's library (if you can kelly1mm Dec 14 #73

I don't disagree with your point about liable laws and 'free speech', Jack Valentino Dec 14 #74

Shitler's case was total bullshit. What jury would award him damages? SunSeeker Dec 15 #76

So is your argument that ABC News and GS paid 15M to the President Trump Library fund and issued kelly1mm Dec 15 #85

NO. SunSeeker Dec 15 #87

It IS factually accurate as most people understand the term "rape." SunSeeker Dec 15 #77

For libel purposes, the phrase that is most important in not the word 'rape' but the phrase 'the JURY found'. From a kelly1mm Dec 15 #80

Carroll's judge said the jury found Trump raped her. SunSeeker Dec 15 #82

Please read my comment again. I put that in as one of the options that would NOT have gotten kelly1mm Dec 15 #84

If the judge can describe the verdict as the jury found Trump raped her, so can a lay journalist. SunSeeker Dec 15 #86

Thanks for the clarification. That was well thought out - especially the part about SLAPP suits. nt kelly1mm Dec 15 #99

Your nonlawyer opinion is correct. SunSeeker Dec 15 #79

I'm waiting for Karma. Boomerproud Dec 15 #105

Obeying in advance for a suit they would have won... JT45242 Dec 14 #65

Yup. Marc Elias gets it. SunSeeker Dec 15 #88

They can't do enough kacekwl Dec 15 #75

Let's not kid ourselves about what's going on here. unblock Dec 15 #78

Toilet-licking cowards Blue Owl Dec 15 #81

Boycotting abc is easy, have been doing it for years. niyad Dec 15 #83

Has Trump paid E. Jean Carroll the $83 million he owes her yet? tetedur Dec 15 #92

The money is in escrow awaiting appeal BumRushDaShow Dec 15 #97

Trump Library guss Dec 15 #95

Stockholm Syndrome is suddenly Trump syndrome Historic NY Dec 15 #98

They are going to donate to his fucking library..................so that he can display the covers turbinetree Dec 15 #100

His presidential library should be. McDonald's with a couple of books and wall to wall pictures of tsf MacKasey Dec 15 #101

So the court fount that he only forced his fingers in to a woman's Vagina, Not his penis. OK, Facts matter... mackdaddy Dec 15 #102

ABC isn't paying $15M, their advertisers are which is passed onto consumers. Bengus81 Dec 15 #103

Chicken shits hamsterjill Dec 15 #107