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Eureka

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70. Interesting, thanks..... in pondering your response I had a nose around and found this article
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 01:49 PM
Nov 18
https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/recalcitrant-uncooperative-countries-refuse-deportation

that goes into some depth about how these things are treated and goes someway towards a comparison of the US and EU in how they each deal with the problem.

It's quite murky, but I suspect there will be some political maneuvering (eg visa sanctions as discussed in the article), pig headed bullying and a decent amount of long term detention, dehumanisation, death and suffering (totally on brand for the Trump Party and Magats). And on top of all of that, I suspect it will be lots of propaganda about how successful they are while lining the pockets of the rich and torturing the less fortunate.

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"Dictator on day one" . . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 18 #1
"OH YOU KNOW TRUMP DOESN'T REALLY MEAN THAT; HE'S SPEAKING IN METAPHORS!!" Blue_Tires Nov 18 #4
This does not bode well for anyone... NotHardly Nov 18 #49
And we all know how many "dictators on day one" ever relinquished dictatorial power. patphil Nov 18 #60
Better a national emergency to get rid of drumpf. greatauntoftriplets Nov 18 #2
But not those from England or Western Europe? Sequoia Nov 18 #3
Or South Africa?? Blue_Tires Nov 18 #5
White ones from Africa are fine.. LiberalArkie Nov 18 #33
I have to remind myself Blue_Tires Nov 18 #39
The Asians and Indians will need to remember their place as the U.S. might be turning the way back machine LiberalArkie Nov 18 #43
Not the engineers and computer geniuses AkFemDem Nov 18 #63
Not necessarily. They have no problem at all sending them back where they came from and do a LiberalArkie Nov 18 #75
In S. Africa, "Asian" was one of four classes of people Bernardo de La Paz Nov 18 #81
It was in the U.S. also. Oh and Indian (meaning those redskins). At least in Arkanstan LiberalArkie Nov 18 #93
This message was self-deleted by its author geardaddy Nov 18 #67
Except probably cannabis_flower Nov 18 #52
i was just thinking about this . AllaN01Bear Nov 18 #78
45 months and counting republianmushroom Nov 18 #6
You know what will happen jmowreader Nov 18 #7
There will be a nationwide phone hotline for reporting "illegals"...... groundloop Nov 18 #9
This time, Miguelito Loveless Nov 18 #17
Which could be even more abusive jmowreader Nov 18 #32
Same as is happening IbogaProject Nov 18 #53
Don't even mention IBM... regnaD kciN Nov 18 #108
And if you piss your neighbor off rambler_american Nov 18 #79
Germany had the Great Depression to deal with VMA131Marine Nov 18 #105
The more hubris they show off, the more inept they prove to be, the better off our democracy. Magoo48 Nov 18 #30
Wishful thinking... regnaD kciN Nov 18 #111
Resistance takes many forms; direct action is only one of them. Magoo48 Nov 19 #115
One of the biggest maga I know is Mexican. louis-t Nov 18 #51
Wait until Trump issues his executive order to ban "birthright citizenship"... regnaD kciN Nov 18 #109
Oh don't worry about that just yet. OldBaldy1701E Nov 18 #104
I've been telling my wife... regnaD kciN Nov 18 #107
How will the US force other countries to accept these deportations? Eureka Nov 18 #8
My guess.... if tRUMP can't deport people they'll be housed in concentration camps groundloop Nov 18 #10
I guess this is "no pricetag" part of the solution. nt Eureka Nov 18 #22
They will also alexjohn1965 Nov 18 #35
...until they can come up with "the final solution to the immigrant question." regnaD kciN Nov 18 #112
Potential mechanisms? Blackjackdavey Nov 18 #15
Oh, slavery! Eureka Nov 18 #23
They will take them back Miguelito Loveless Nov 18 #19
So a new war for the history books... they'll have to start working on the branding Eureka Nov 18 #27
Some will die in custody. Hope22 Nov 18 #44
Well I suppose he will at least have the labor force to wield the shovels nt. Eureka Nov 18 #55
It's crazy that we have to imagine these things. Hope22 Nov 18 #73
He will sell the marketable ones. Hope22 Nov 18 #41
THIS +1 Dan Nov 18 #65
We already do this all the time- AkFemDem Nov 18 #66
Interesting, thanks..... in pondering your response I had a nose around and found this article Eureka Nov 18 #70
It may all just end at the camps. hadEnuf Nov 18 #72
"accept the people back" PSPS Nov 18 #99
Biden needs to call a preemptive emergency SupportSanity Nov 18 #11
Yes! brakester Nov 18 #91
or he should step down and let Kamala do it! SupportSanity Nov 18 #102
Yes, Kamala! brakester Nov 26 #116
Time to lay in plenty of popcorn. This is going to be a clusterfuck of epic proportions. Vinca Nov 18 #12
The Muslim ban failed PortTack Nov 18 #76
Uh...actually, no, it didn't... regnaD kciN Nov 18 #113
Trump will deputize the Proud Boys, Oath Keepers, Boogaloo Bois, Patriot Front and Atomwaffen Division sop Nov 18 #13
You called it. Miguelito Loveless Nov 18 #20
J6rs Traildogbob Nov 18 #34
Just like Iraq! Hope22 Nov 18 #48
Russia too Traildogbob Nov 18 #50
Wonder, don't wonder! Remember when T crashed through Turkey leaving our bases and everything else behind for Putin. Hope22 Nov 18 #82
The "Wonder" was sarcasm. Traildogbob Nov 18 #85
I totally understand that! Hope22 Nov 18 #86
Wow, I missed that Traildogbob Nov 18 #87
The gun and ammo manufacturers are also looking forward to this. erronis Nov 18 #36
How is Chump going to pay the new quasi-military groups? FakeNoose Nov 18 #88
Mexico will pay for it. sop Nov 18 #90
if this is truly what happens . . . people Nov 18 #14
The orange monster uses the language of genocide & holocaust Hekate Nov 18 #16
Here's what a CA farmer told ABC's Martha Raddatz people Nov 18 #18
And for saying that Miguelito Loveless Nov 18 #21
Thats a feature, not a bug..... getagrip_already Nov 18 #28
I don't think you are wrong. It is part of the plan - maybe not in the official Project 2025 erronis Nov 18 #38
The "survivalist" group is very very small, and just as vulnerable...don't kid yourself PortTack Nov 18 #68
Really? getagrip_already Nov 18 #103
Maybe President Biden should call a national emergency right now Wicked Blue Nov 18 #24
Or taken into custody for safe keeping! Lol Hope22 Nov 18 #89
Oh, goodie. liberalgunwilltravel Nov 18 #25
By the time the economic devastation hits their beer cash the damage will be done erronis Nov 18 #40
...and the consequences of refusal? EarthFirst Nov 18 #26
Read Celeste Ng's Our Missing Hearts Easterncedar Nov 18 #29
Will they also Traildogbob Nov 18 #31
Is trumpty dumpty gonna put the Rittenhouse shitstain in charge of armed militia round ups? Ziggysmom Nov 18 #37
Actually I don't think you need the sarcasm thingy. GoYouPackersGo Nov 18 #46
Sad but true!!! Ziggysmom Nov 18 #64
You should read this 2019 article from The Atlantic that lays out the scope of presidential emergency powers. LudwigPastorius Nov 18 #42
Your papers please. D. Spaulding Nov 18 #45
So he will declare martial law on day one. Kablooie Nov 18 #47
You're one of the very few people who understand what's really going on. Frank D. Lincoln Nov 18 #59
So he is ordering us to remove him by any means necessary, in other words. Orrex Nov 18 #54
I worry that is what it may come to. hadEnuf Nov 18 #80
Then he'll go after Muslims, Asians and LGBTQ people Owens Nov 18 #56
Why this criminal lunatic is not incarcerated is a national disgrace Evolve Dammit Nov 18 #57
My husband is waiting ... cannabis_flower Nov 18 #58
"...without legal permission." J_William_Ryan Nov 18 #61
Yes, he will have broad powers...not sure if it will be successful. Remember the muslin ban? PortTack Nov 18 #62
Where will he deport them to? Mexico can refuse them at the airports and the border stations. keithbvadu2 Nov 18 #69
Exactly...the newly elected FE president of Mexico said Mexicans are welcome, all others are not. PortTack Nov 18 #74
it just never fails barbtries Nov 18 #71
Blue governors will have the last word on THAT. SCOTUS won't overrule them in any way, shape or form. ancianita Nov 18 #77
Our real problem is the J6 monsters that will be let loose. . Hope22 Nov 18 #83
Grab the go-bags and head to the libraries! ancianita Nov 18 #84
I'm in your corner about the blue Govenors, BUT i fear bluestarone Nov 18 #92
Ain't gonna happen.The U.S. Military JAG will warn them that if they follow illegal orders they can be court martialed. ancianita Nov 18 #94
Like i said i 100% hope your right. bluestarone Nov 18 #95
Gotta trust in the righteousness of the ancianita Nov 18 #96
Back at you. TY bluestarone Nov 18 #97
It won't be long until some get shot, when it happens law enforcement doc03 Nov 18 #98
WTF is he talking about? "Conquered"? maxsolomon Nov 18 #100
Tesla sales would plummet, so Elon better make sure this doesn't happen. Doodley Nov 18 #101
cf. Trump tells his MAGA base to be patriotic speak easy Nov 18 #114
If you think, when Trump sends in the military, that he's only going to target "illegal immigrants"... regnaD kciN Nov 18 #106
What emergency will he make up? travelingthrulife Nov 18 #110
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