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14. Here is a really good article that gives a more nuanced look at Biden and Obama's interactions

Sat Nov 9, 2024, 04:10 PM

Nov 2024

I found this article very interesting. Obama had a deep respect for a Biden but was often annoyed at what he saw as Biden’s tendency to get off topic and tell stories during meetings. Obama and Hillary’s styles were much more alike. What Obama didn’t realize was Biden’s old fashioned way of politics, such as telling those stories and not sticking strictly to the agenda is what helped Biden become one of the absolute best at bipartisan politics.

Really good article. Doesn’t bash Obama, Hillary, or Biden. Just gives interesting insight. A very interesting section in the article mentions how Republicans often went to Biden versus Obama because they felt Obama “mansplained” whereas Biden came from the standpoint of “tell me what you need in order to be able to sell this to your constituents”. Sort of a contrast between someone extremely intelligent (Obama) and Biden just as intelligent but more from a street smart sense.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/08/14/obama-biden-relationship-393570

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He was still weighing a run after Beau's death, and Obama didn't want him to run crimycarny Nov 2024 #12

Here is a really good article that gives a more nuanced look at Biden and Obama's interactions crimycarny Nov 2024 #14

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Exactly! GoreWon2000 Nov 2024 #13

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