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13. Gore offered Bush a statewide count
Thu Jul 2, 2026, 02:06 PM
Yesterday

As someone who spent 15 years working on election campaigns in Florida, under the laws that were on the books in 2000, there are some points made in this podcast that I need to correct Missing from this podcast is the fact that during a prime time address during the Florida election dispute, Al Gore offered to drop all legal proceedings if Bush would agree to the statewide count of the uncounted Florida votes. Bush refused.

I also find it disappointing that the podcaster attacked Al Gore for following what Florida election law actually was in 2000. The Gore campaign targeted the counties where most of the uncounted votes were actually located. They turned out to be the largest and most heavily democratic counties in Florida. In 2000, Florida election law did not allow for a statewide vote count because the Florida legislature believed that the votes should be counted in the counties where the votes were actually cast. The Florida legislature then gave the counties the authority to handle election disputes. These were 2 of the reforms passed in the aftermath of the 1876 Presidential election that Florida was also at the center of. In 1876. In 1876, the GOP controlled Florida statewide canvassing board threw out the votes of 1,800 democrats which was more than enough votes to change the outcome of that election in favor of the republican Presidential candidate Rutherford Hayes. To prevent this throwing out of votes from happening again, the Florida legislature passed a reform that required the counting of all votes where the intent of the voter was clear. This is a clear standard that's the voting counting standard in most states including Texas. This reform clearly failed in 2000 thanks to Jeb Bush, Katherine Harris and the GOP controlled SCOTUS.
The GOP controlled SCOTUS's ruling was unconstitutional because the constitution gives the states the authority to conduct elections and it gives the U.S. House of Representatives the authority to settle disputed elections not 5 unelected, highly partisan SCOTUS judges. It also violated the 14th amendment because GOP ballots that the counting machines could not read got counted while Dem ballots that the counting machines couldn't read were not counted. The podcast also doesn't note the fact that not 1 dem U.S. Senator would co-sponsor the Congressional Black Caucus's challenge to the fraudulent Florida 2000 vote count.
Furthermore, Jeb's interference started will before election day by making numerous public threats that he would carry Florida for his brother in addition to the felon purge. Jeb also singlehandedly changed Florida absentee ballot law without a vote of the Florida legislature in order to increase GOP turnout. During the election dispute, Jeb threated to take away state business from Florida law firms who took Al Gore's case.
In conclusion, I really take issue with the podcaster for blaming Al Gore for the Bush brothers all-out assault on American democracy in Florida. Our country will never be the same because of it.

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12/12/2000 - the day journalism died 31st Street Bridge Yesterday #1
Those that objected were shouted down MustLoveBeagles Yesterday #6
That was even Al Gore's response orthoclad 23 hrs ago #15
They stopped counting to protect Bush's "win" crud Yesterday #2
The intent of the voter was the law in Florida in 2000 DemocracyForever Yesterday #3
I was headed to Florida for the recount when this decision came down LetMyPeopleVote Yesterday #4
"It the statewide recount had proceeded Al Gore would have won" Polybius 6 hrs ago #19
This is very old from DU LetMyPeopleVote 4 hrs ago #22
The media did not follow Florida election law DemocracyForever 2 hrs ago #25
Yes DemocracyForever 2 hrs ago #26
Thank you MustLoveBeagles Yesterday #5
Unfortunately Pas-de-Calais Yesterday #7
In Exquisite Detail, OP. ColoringFool Yesterday #8
I still remember but, I've put it all behind me.... chouchou Yesterday #9
The Bush 2000 coup can never be forgotten DemocracyForever 2 hrs ago #24
I can remember seeing Jeb Bush's name listed as the realtor on a piece of rural South Florida farm property. NBachers Yesterday #10
Yes, the Court should have been reformed at that time... kentuck Yesterday #11
Sandra Day O'Connor's shameful legacy Easterncedar Yesterday #12
Gore offered Bush a statewide count DemocracyForever Yesterday #13
Yes indeed Deminpenn 23 hrs ago #14
and the court also said that the verdict was basically a special one time thing so that it could be used against them in Jbraybarten 23 hrs ago #16
They rioted to stop the count. orthoclad 23 hrs ago #17
Gore did not back down DemocracyForever 2 hrs ago #23
Post removed Post removed 7 hrs ago #18
And DU was born because of it. Solly Mack 6 hrs ago #20
How could I forget? raccoon 4 hrs ago #21
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