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moniss

(9,214 posts)
28. Years ago I ran into a similar thing of suppression
Sun Jun 28, 2026, 10:24 AM
Sunday

at a City Council meeting I attended for the first time. I got up to speak and they demanded my name and address or I couldn't speak. Come to find out this very insular and crooked group had been running things for many decades and the purpose of demanding your name and address was for several reasons.

The first was if you were not from that city and they didn't like what you said they would instantly and very vocally decry you as an "outsider" who doesn't "belong" in the meeting. The second was that if you were from the community they would then target you with building inspection etc. I remember one case in particular where a single mom who lived there spoke up about things and her son, never in trouble or problems with grades, immediately started getting targeted in school by teachers and the school cops to the point where he quit and went the GED route. The third was if you were not from the community they would have their people "check you out" and then see what trouble they could cause for you.

To give you an idea of the corruption here is a small example. The city had a population of just under 20,000 and occupies 4 square miles. The city street department budget had an annual expenditure of over $50,000 for "hand tools". That's one hell of a lot of "hand tools" for a city that contracted out almost every aspect of their work. If you sat outside the city garage in the morning you would see about 15 people enter the building and after an hour one of the managers would leave, driving a city pickup truck of course, to go run his private landscaping business. Most days he would be about the only vehicle to leave. You could drive all over the city and not find any workers anywhere doing anything. All day long. Then at quitting time they would all leave the city garage. Day after day. But if you spoke up about these things they would rain hell down on you any way they could.

Even further back I knew a guy who was a county employee for a rural county and he was supposed to do basic maintenance/painting at the county rest home. He would go and punch in first thing in the morning and then drive 3 miles back home and go do side jobs or just hang in his garage and drink beer all day. Then he would go punch out at quitting time. The bosses all knew and they were doing similar things as well.

Crooked local government/police is a huge day to day issue in this country.


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protecting and serving WhiskeyGrinder Sunday #1
...yer ass, mf'er! yeehaw! ret5hd Sunday #2
Is police state tyranny now the norm? The Wizard Sunday #3
It's less about a "police state" and more about terrible local mismanagement. QueerDuck Sunday #6
I disagree. yardwork Sunday #11
I completely agree with your conclusion. QueerDuck Sunday #13
And thank you for yours! yardwork Sunday #16
That was such a reasonable and civil exchange PatSeg Sunday #20
It is a quandary Farmer-Rick Sunday #24
It's both. yardwork Sunday #33
Damn right. This kind of NAZI style crap is going on Nationwide Bengus81 Sunday #22
And that's how he grabs his MAGAs back into his tent... slightlv Sunday #47
However you have no idea how crooked or not this moniss Sunday #30
In some rural and older suburban areas... haele Sunday #40
Police are the tip of the corporate spear when it's time to to protect corporate operations and capital accumulation. sop Sunday #8
Corporations, run by and for the Uber Wealthy popsdenver Sunday #25
I agree completely based on what I have observed Hey Joe Sunday #36
We forget the many lethal confrontations orthoclad Sunday #26
Which is, of course, why they were created in the first place. OldBaldy1701E Sunday #43
Yes. orthoclad Sunday #23
If it is REPUBLICAN run, then Police State is the norm dave99 Sunday #46
Kick dalton99a Sunday #4
The headline simplifies a much more tense escalation... QueerDuck Sunday #5
Excuses, excuses, excuses AverageOldGuy Sunday #7
Oh good grief. That is a massive leap from what was actually written. Let's keep it grounded in reality. QueerDuck Sunday #9
And get time off with pay for 30 to 60 days? KS Toronado Sunday #10
The police have no business arresting anyone for taking too long at the podium during a public meeting. None. sop Sunday #12
Sorry. But pointing out legal mechanics isn't an endorsement of the outcome. QueerDuck Sunday #14
Democracy is messy. Citizens take too long at the podium all the time during public meetings. They speak over sop Sunday #18
Oh good grief! That is a complete and intentional misreading of what I wrote. QueerDuck Sunday #19
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