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dalton99a

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Tue Jun 16, 2026, 09:01 AM Yesterday

President Trump Lost This War [View all]

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/06/15/opinion/-trump-lost-war-iran.html


By The Editorial Board

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Iran’s hard-line government remains in place. The specifics of the nuclear agreement will apparently be negotiated over the next two months, but the terms seem likely to resemble those of a 2015 deal that President Barack Obama negotiated and that Mr. Trump canceled in 2018. He described the Obama agreement as the “worst deal ever” and said it put Iran on “a route to a nuclear weapon.” He criticized it for failing to force Iran to stop supporting terrorist groups like Hamas and Hezbollah and for loosening economic sanctions. Yet his destructive war seems likely to leave him with a similar deal.

His biggest achievement in the cease-fire framework is the expected reopening of the Strait of Hormuz to global shipping traffic, which will eventually reduce the prices of energy and other goods. That, of course, is merely a reversion to the prewar status quo. Iran closed the strait in retaliation, to damage the global economy and increase political pressure on the United States. The move worked, and Iran’s leaders now understand that they hold a powerful economic weapon.

On balance, Iran emerges the strategic winner of the four-month war. It did suffer substantial losses, including much of its navy, air force, military-industrial capacity and political leadership, including Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, the supreme leader, who was killed on the war’s first day. With the war ending, however, Iran’s leadership can begin rebuilding.

The United States, for its part, looks weaker in the eyes of the world. The American military has shown itself unable to quash a much smaller opponent even as it burned through many of its long-range precision missiles and interceptors. The outcome damages this country’s ability to deter other potential adversaries. To begin to repair the damage, the United States would be wise to mend alliances in Europe, the Middle East and Asia that have been frayed by the war’s military and economic effects. The Pentagon will also need to modernize and prepare for the wars of the future. Neither is likely to happen under President Trump.

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President Trump Lost This War [View all] dalton99a Yesterday OP
Trump is a loser PJMcK Yesterday #1
One million % correct. It is really that simple. chicoescuela Yesterday #2
He thought he was going to invade a shithole country and take their oil Mr.Bee 23 hrs ago #22
Big Time Ray Bruns 22 hrs ago #24
Fake, phony, fraud, charlatan, loser. Dulcinea 22 hrs ago #28
The War was Rigged! Prairie Gates Yesterday #3
Iran didn't know Trump is the King of the Universe and they were supposed to bow Attilatheblond 20 hrs ago #33
They forgot about Epstein. Glad they mentioned Israel. Kid Berwyn Yesterday #4
And what the Orange Dipshit did has strengthened them. YodaMom2 23 hrs ago #14
Thousands if not tens of thousands of dead Iranian protesters... Kid Berwyn 23 hrs ago #19
China probably feels they have a much freer hand in Taiwan after this. SamuelAdams Yesterday #5
That's a serious ramification. Martin68 Yesterday #9
Maybe They'll modrepub 22 hrs ago #23
If a man bankrupt's two casinos, how can you expect him to do something like "win a war" ? ashredux Yesterday #6
Three jmowreader 23 hrs ago #16
Dismal. calimary 16 hrs ago #38
What about Rebl2 Yesterday #7
The full terms of the deal are still unknown so the NYT left them out of the Editorial. maxsolomon 23 hrs ago #17
Archived usonian Yesterday #8
+1 dalton99a 23 hrs ago #20
This message was self-deleted by its author dalton99a 23 hrs ago #21
Obama's deal had Iran give up 97% of its enriched uranium and allow inspection of its nuclear facilities Martin Eden Yesterday #10
JCPOA was 159 pages. Apparently JV Vance said this is a page and a half underpants 22 hrs ago #27
Regarding nukes, it's probably trust WITHOUT verification Martin Eden 21 hrs ago #30
All in the name of distraction from Epstein Bristlecone Yesterday #11
HEY, nyt. YOU helped create this monster, but thank you for niyad Yesterday #12
Not to mention Mblaze 23 hrs ago #13
I wish every media person and politician Mblaze 23 hrs ago #15
Although that is true, in the final years when the US karynnj 22 hrs ago #29
Thanks 😀 Mblaze 18 hrs ago #36
In other news, the ocean is wet and tree leaves are green in June. NNadir 23 hrs ago #18
Nope America lost this war IbogaProject 22 hrs ago #25
None of this would'be happened under President Kamala Harris and a Democratic Administration NBachers 22 hrs ago #26
But Kamala Harris Laughed Funny. Ray Bruns 21 hrs ago #32
Infuriating, isn't it! calimary 16 hrs ago #39
"To begin to repair the damage, the United States would be wise to mend alliances in Europe, the Middle East and Asia" Ray Bruns 21 hrs ago #31
ETTD, except for Iran. City Lights 20 hrs ago #34
The Loser Who Thinks He's A Winner VBNMW_Realist 19 hrs ago #35
Trump is a no talent guy. Emile 17 hrs ago #37
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