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Bluetus

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22. I suppopse most of our adversaries already knew our military was 60 years out of date
Sun Jun 14, 2026, 11:20 PM
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But Trump and Hegseth decided to put that on parade for all to see. The latest estimates say we are burning up about a trillion dollars with this "excursion". They now can see that, while we can pick off fishing boats at sea, and we can blow up schools and hospitals at a distance, we really are in no position to conduct a big ground operation, especially when we don't have allies lined up.

Does anybody else find it almost unbelievable that, after spending so much on the B1 and B2 programs, we are mostly afraid to use them. So much so that we are embarking on a program to retrofit modern engines on the remaining fleet of 78 B-52s. The idea is to keep them flying until 2050. At that time, every one of those aircraft will be at least 88 years old, and some will be flying at 100 years.

Meanwhile Ukraine and Iran are dealing huge blows to Russia and the US respectively using $20,000 drones against our weapons that cost from $1,000,000 to $35,000,000 each.

Not only has Trump made the US considerably less powerful, he has also screwed much of the US defense industry that made much of their profit selling to NATO allies. The NATO countries are running away from the US makers in droves now.

And back to the B-52 thing, the Pentagon has convinced themselves that the B-52 is the best bombing option because of the range and enormous payload (and the time aloft without refueling will be extended about 30% with the modern engines.) But the newest B-52s were built 40-50 years before the stealth airframes were invented. The B-52 only works when you can keep them at high altitude, a hundred miles away from the action. OK, that can work, but it means that the ordnance has to be expensive guided missiles. These are all about $2,000,000 per shot, and we just burned up about 5 years' production, with no real impact on Iran.

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Now I get it. It's still total BS. [View all] senseandsensibility Sunday OP
His Statement Is Self-Indicting ProfessorGAC Sunday #1
This message was self-deleted by its author ShazzieB Sunday #16
We also received damage to our bases IbogaProject Sunday #17
He and his mobster buddies believe they need to be unnecessarily cruel haele Sunday #2
True. Here's Michael Ledeen Grins 18 hrs ago #34
We are not getting back to where we were. Not even close. RockRaven Sunday #3
I would argue the opposite genxlib Sunday #4
The only fool that starts a war he doesn't need and can't Colgate 64 Sunday #5
The alienation of former allies to help Putin lose his war-crimes. Justice matters. Sunday #8
Trumped-Up enthusiasts are dangerously stupid. czarjak Sunday #6
How incredibly stupid and incompetent odins folly Sunday #7
"USA is NOT the most powerful nation in the world anymore" Martin Eden Sunday #11
Yes! odins folly Sunday #14
Not to mention lonely bird 20 hrs ago #28
I suppopse most of our adversaries already knew our military was 60 years out of date Bluetus Sunday #22
Entrenched interests of the military industrial complex Martin Eden Sunday #23
Normally the M-I-C loves periodic wars to burn off stuff that has to be replaced Bluetus Yesterday #24
To achieve the goal without the threat of force is a big plus on my book. Martin Eden Sunday #9
The JCPOA was NOT just Obama and Iran. House of Roberts Sunday #10
There is NO WAY #rump will get as good a deal as the one he ripped up William Seger Sunday #12
This whole administration is one giant clusterfuck Galraedia Sunday #13
Hegseth Is OBSESSED WITH "War," "Warriors," "Force,"......." ColoringFool Sunday #15
This is still the best commentary I've seen regarding Iran: Totally Tunsie Sunday #18
Iran says: OK, America, learnt your lesson? Aussie105 Sunday #19
War Crimes vapor2 Sunday #20
The U.S. will never get back to 2015 where we respected each other dave99 Sunday #21
What Hegseth meant was, the first agreement was made by the Obama administration and the international community ChicagoTeamster Yesterday #25
Kept Epstein out of the news for a good while. usonian Yesterday #26
"I'm glad that very few are buying it." OldBaldy1701E 22 hrs ago #27
13 U.S. service members were killed for what? Emile 20 hrs ago #29
Also, it is NOT a deal yet, at best it is an MOU to make a nuclear deal karynnj 20 hrs ago #30
$260 billion spent over 4 months to achieve... the status quo Torchlight 20 hrs ago #31
Hegseth is a drunken freak-show poser Blue Owl 20 hrs ago #32
Not to mention we burned through half of our Tomahawk missile inventory SpankMe 19 hrs ago #33
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