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Mike Niendorff

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140. They're not asking, and I'm not offering.

Tue Jun 2, 2026, 02:23 AM

13 hrs ago

If they want to devote themselves to fixing the damage they have done, they should do so.

That would be the task at hand.

But as for me forgiving them and welcoming them back as lost sheep?

No way in hell.

They let the wolf in once. They're never, ever EVER going to get another chance on my watch.

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Can you ever forgive MAGA voters? [View all] kentuck Yesterday OP

I'll NEVER FORGET, that's for sure (in some views, that means I never really forgive, so... ) hlthe2b Yesterday #1

Forgive? Perhaps ProfessorGAC Yesterday #2

Not at this stage of the game. Junipercity Yesterday #88

I'm afraid Mad_Machine76 17 hrs ago #126

I don't know many people like those you described.. MineralMan Yesterday #3

My late Mother was a huge Trump supporter from the instant he came on the political scene. COL Mustard Yesterday #57

Very sad for you... some_of_us_are_sane Yesterday #113

No HappyH Yesterday #4

NO durablend Yesterday #5

I cut myself loose from those people long ago. Ritabert Yesterday #6

Talk to me after all their shit is cleaned up Alpeduez21 Yesterday #7

NOPE. n/t Coventina Yesterday #8

NOPE! bluestarone Yesterday #9

I dont care about your past so much as SSJVegeta Yesterday #10

Fuck trump voters.. thomski64 Yesterday #11

HELL to the NO IzzaNuDay Yesterday #12

Forgiveness benefits me, so yes. catrose Yesterday #13

I can forgive those that solely got their info from right wing media only to discover other points of view AStern Yesterday #14

They don't even exist in the same (real) world underpants Yesterday #40

Have a buddy who is a Trumper/Fox guy FHRRK1 Yesterday #103

That's a reasonable response... some_of_us_are_sane Yesterday #116

Fuck them! 3_Limes Yesterday #15

Nope. Fuck em. CanonRay Yesterday #16

Nope Quiet Em Yesterday #17

Only if obnoxiousdrunk Yesterday #18

Fuck no! Aristus Yesterday #19

It Feels Like an Awfully Big Stretch to Actually Forgive Unthinking, Mentally-lazy Propaganda Addicts The Roux Comes First Yesterday #20

I feel sorry for their delusions... Soul_of_Wit Yesterday #21

People who voted for Trump after hearing him brag about grabbing women and watching him mock the disabled reporter? dalton99a Yesterday #22

Absolutely not. MontanaMama Yesterday #23

No. LoisB Yesterday #24

No -- they are enemies to all free and peace loving people Ponietz Yesterday #25

no. rampartd Yesterday #26

Easy answer- nope chicoescuela Yesterday #27

I don't think they knew. They have no moral or intellectual compass. They thought Trump was cool. bucolic_frolic Yesterday #28

His appeal to them all was his racism and sexism, and though many Scrivener7 Yesterday #29

HELL NO! Chasstev365 Yesterday #30

Fuck NO. FoxNewsSucks Yesterday #31

No. Bettie Yesterday #32

Fuck no Aviation Pro Yesterday #33

NEVER! zanana1 Yesterday #34

No nt lark Yesterday #35

After a very long time. Punishing has to happen. Blue Full Moon Yesterday #36

No underpants Yesterday #37

Forgive? No way in hell Grim Chieftain Yesterday #38

As citizens, we all have a duty to... BH liberal Yesterday #39

Only if they promise to NEVER VOTE AGAIN! EastBayGuy Yesterday #41

NO. I'm nearer to the end of my life than the beginning and for the remainder of it.. CousinIT Yesterday #42

Hell yes orangecrush Yesterday #43

I'm with you Martin Eden 7 hrs ago #156

No, especially the ones who voted for Luciferous Yesterday #44

NO Liberal In Red State Yesterday #45

Not really - there's "Friends and Family ".. haele Yesterday #46

HELL NO! Emile Yesterday #47

uhmmm sagetea Yesterday #48

Never, nope, and hell no. kairos12 Yesterday #49

Can't forgive yankee87 Yesterday #50

Nope vapor2 Yesterday #51

They voted for Cancer... Escape Yesterday #52

NO!!!!!! aeromanKC Yesterday #53

After they enabled the destruction of our Democracy, took food from the mouth of babies, end USAID Old-8643 Yesterday #54

Yes - On a case by case basis. ihaveaquestion Yesterday #55

My personal take TheProle Yesterday #56

Thanks for the oasis of rational thinking orangecrush Yesterday #70

FUCK that Skittles 12 hrs ago #143

"What matters is course-correction for future generations." Martin Eden 7 hrs ago #158

Nope, I have distanced myself from them. I will be polite but that's it. Everyone knew the reputation TommieMommy Yesterday #58

They weren't just ignorant. They embraced willful ignorance. DeeDeeNY Yesterday #59

Their embracing of willful ignorance is something La Coliniere 9 hrs ago #153

This is a joke, right? Ol Janx Spirit Yesterday #60

It's on an almost case-by-case basis. BobTheSubgenius Yesterday #61

I can forgive but never trust their judgement again kimbutgar Yesterday #62

I have family I love who are trump supporters LuvLoogie Yesterday #63

You perfectly capture the feelings I have toward my MAGA family members. callous taoboy 11 hrs ago #148

Forgive? Dave Id Yesterday #64

Forgiveness drmeow Yesterday #65

I'm perfectly happy to add to the many No votes here. NNadir Yesterday #66

No. hamsterjill Yesterday #67

After three elections involving this asshole? Fuck no. W_HAMILTON Yesterday #68

Nope. MaeScott Yesterday #69

Polls show that MAGA voters still support Trump Kaleva Yesterday #71

NO! virgdem Yesterday #72

Not unless they make SERIOUS reparations Wicked Blue Yesterday #73

NO!!! CaptainTruth Yesterday #74

Depends upon how contrite/sincere they are RussBLib Yesterday #75

Cry me a fucking river, magats. Gaytano70 Yesterday #76

Maybe. In about a thousand years (or longer), mwmisses4289 Yesterday #77

So we had a former friend of the family turned magat contact us the other day GoodRaisin Yesterday #78

No, I view them the same as rabid nazis who supported Hitler Mysterian Yesterday #79

Good analogy! kentuck Yesterday #94

Can you ever forgive MAGA voters? NO! aggiesal Yesterday #80

I have low tolerance for willfull ignorance. lpbk2713 Yesterday #81

No, they still love him. dem4decades Yesterday #82

I feel like it doesn't matter, they've always been there FullySupportDems Yesterday #83

I already have, for the most part Warpy Yesterday #84

I don't know. barbtries Yesterday #85

No. lizardkingjr Yesterday #86

Recommended. H2O Man Yesterday #87

The ones i know i already broke off with long ago. Figarosmom Yesterday #89

I am lucky enough not to have any Trumpers in my immediate life. ShazzieB Yesterday #90

No. Never. maspaha Yesterday #91

Let me know how they vote in the next few elections. n/t flvegan Yesterday #92

Yes, if they confess their sin and sincerely ask for forgiveness surfered Yesterday #93

According to the Catholic official Rite of Penance, forgiveness requires penitents to go through four steps: sop Yesterday #95

HELL NO. That is all. Not ever. NEVER!! LSparkle Yesterday #96

Why were they terribly wrong??? rogue emissary Yesterday #97

Maybe I understand forgiveness in a different way. I see at as an inner release of people who have wronged me. PatrickforB Yesterday #98

We have our own MAGA-type problem brewing here with Platner. jmbar2 Yesterday #99

Actions do speak louder than words... sarisataka Yesterday #108

No freakin way...plus... MiHale Yesterday #100

The primaries tell a different story... lame54 Yesterday #101

Forgive? NEVER!!!!! LilElf70 Yesterday #102

That is like asking me if I forgive Sirhan Bishara Sirhan or Mark David Chapman DFW Yesterday #104

No. Just as I will never forgive the "butter emails" crowd, or the "she's a warmonger" crowd... QueerDuck Yesterday #105

Yes! I think if I started adding to that list I'd get too worked up... betsuni 2 hrs ago #167

I know not a single one with regrets. maxsolomon Yesterday #106

Despite all of the strong denials sarisataka Yesterday #107

Willful ignorance is not forgivable. 3825-87867 Yesterday #109

100% that!!! oasis 17 hrs ago #127

Nope. Because I will not believe any of them are actually appropriately sorry. RockRaven Yesterday #110

No, I don't mgardener Yesterday #111

To me, there is a difference between regret and remorse. Of those people who regret their alwaysinasnit Yesterday #112

NO CharleyDog Yesterday #114

Bodily autonomy, & the abortion issue, I was already having difficulty socializing with republicans. CrispyQ Yesterday #115

They will have to deserve it, and then ask for forgiveness biophile Yesterday #117

If we can't unite against the tyrants, oligarchs, policies, etc. that harm us, snot Yesterday #118

Exactly Martin Eden 7 hrs ago #159

no ShepKat 23 hrs ago #119

Do not underestimate how much THEY HATE US ThoughtCriminal 19 hrs ago #120

Many still support him pattyloutwo 18 hrs ago #121

Sadly, two of my three my kids voted for Trump hurl 18 hrs ago #122

No! There are obligations for the privilege of living in a democracy Attilatheblond 17 hrs ago #123

No, massive damage has already been done mvd 17 hrs ago #124

I'm not sure Mad_Machine76 17 hrs ago #125

Fool you once, shame on you Johonny 17 hrs ago #128

Forgive? It's really not appropriate, for me, anyway. vanlassie 16 hrs ago #129

Nope. They may be disappointed, but they are still MAGA/Tea Party/3%/Militia/Bugaloo/Proud Boys and ... marble falls 16 hrs ago #130

NOPE. buzzycrumbhunger 16 hrs ago #131

It's like a complete identity thing for them and so I don't know if it'll change oldmanlynn 16 hrs ago #132

yeh , NO dweller 16 hrs ago #133

Nope. The racist morons knew what they were voting for. Dave Bowman 15 hrs ago #134

F-'EM! czarjak 15 hrs ago #135

HELL TO THE NO! Blue Owl 15 hrs ago #136

Sure, I can forgive Fred and Barney Beringia 15 hrs ago #137

No forgiveness unless they actively work to try to undo the VTderry 14 hrs ago #138

"They have deep regret and they want off the ship"? red dog 1 14 hrs ago #139

They're not asking, and I'm not offering. Mike Niendorff 13 hrs ago #140

No. sakabatou 13 hrs ago #141

NO Skittles 12 hrs ago #142

It depends on the reason for their remorse DFW 12 hrs ago #144

it's not just America they damaged Skittles 11 hrs ago #145

There is that as well, but they cannot vote in our elections DFW 11 hrs ago #146

Perhaps when my MAGA family members are on their death beds. callous taoboy 11 hrs ago #147

Depends on when they redeemed themselves Polybius 10 hrs ago #149

Forgive those who know not what they do Martin Eden 9 hrs ago #150

No no a thousand times no. Never forgive, never forgetj Trueblue1968 9 hrs ago #151

Absolutely. mahina 9 hrs ago #152

I live in a mixed Florida neighborhood PCB66 8 hrs ago #154

No- Real harm was done tulipsandroses 8 hrs ago #155

Never. All 87 million+ voters need to "take one for the team." Efilroft Sul 7 hrs ago #157

Anyone remotely rationale would have concluded long ago that Donald Trump is unfit for the job of president. waterwatcher123 7 hrs ago #160

Thinking about sending my Talibangelical Maga relatives an image of my Satanic Temple card. Girard442 6 hrs ago #161

Not a snowballs chance in h... redstatebluegirl 6 hrs ago #162

I never bought into the whole "Christian" forgiveness thing... Trueblue Texan 5 hrs ago #163

NO! happy feet 5 hrs ago #164

Nope Deep State Witch 4 hrs ago #165

Its the MS media that I cannot forgive dclarston13 3 hrs ago #166