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mr715

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193. He isn't my friend.

Mon Jun 1, 2026, 02:55 PM

2 hrs ago

He had a job. He did it well. His replacement is doing just as well.

I don't know why I have to factor his feelings into the calculus.

Plenty of people that work in offices get fired, get forced out, suffer indignities and "office politics".

No elected representative is owed their rank. They must constantly earn trust.

Al Franken was absolutely forced out - but he made the decision to, not anyone else.

He made a moral and ethical call.

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Re Platner - We can bask in our purity [View all] orangecrush Yesterday OP

Replay of Rep. Anthony Weiner. no_hypocrisy Yesterday #1

Weiner actually got some prison time LisaL Yesterday #17

Weiner went to jail for sexting a 15 year old EdmondDantes_ Yesterday #20

Anthony Weiner sent dick pictures while he was IN congress. He was caught, and did it again. And was caught again. Fil1957 Yesterday #21

Not to mention when he did it again, he HURT HRC's 2016 Campaign karynnj Yesterday #29

As far as I can tell, people who do it, usually can't stop. LisaL Yesterday #33

It really cost him everything he most cared about karynnj Yesterday #37

Oh yeah, forgot that he might have cost HRC the election. Fil1957 Yesterday #39

I could never forget that one. LisaL Yesterday #40

Weiner clearly had some mental issues. Fil1957 Yesterday #98

We are now to the point where we are DEFENDING Anthony Weiner and his actions ? stopdiggin Yesterday #44

As far as I can see the only disqualifier sarisataka Yesterday #148

Totally different situation. ShazzieB Yesterday #46

Weiner and his pedophilia might've cost us the 2016 election mr715 Yesterday #58

This is not the way Boo1 23 hrs ago #161

The oligarchs love to tell the peasants: "Suffering builds character" dalton99a Yesterday #2

Look at their standard bearer orangecrush Yesterday #3

The comparison will be Platner vs Collins karynnj Yesterday #32

Actually Platner's behaviors remind me of Trump. delisen Yesterday #53

Are they? Boo1 21 hrs ago #164

All I care about is winning elections and keeping as many filthy MAGATs out of office as possible. BannonsLiver Yesterday #4

We dumped Al Franklin for what? Ferryboat Yesterday #5

We did not "dump" Al Franken. He resigned, conceded the successful campaign question everything Yesterday #9

Franken was pushed out by his fellow colleagues, he was targeted because he was too effective questionseverything Yesterday #11

To save the ACA, PERIOD END OF krawhitham Yesterday #13

We gained an outstanding senator in that seat. WhiskeyGrinder Yesterday #16

I don't think we gained anything from that situation. LisaL Yesterday #18

As a Minnesotan, I believe Tina Smith was a better senator than Franken, and a case could be made for Franken's WhiskeyGrinder Yesterday #24

Well, that situation with Roy Moore LisaL Yesterday #28

It also saved the ACA krawhitham 6 hrs ago #188

lol BannonsLiver Yesterday #22

Being unwilling to keep a serial groper in office is a good thing EdmondDantes_ Yesterday #30

Al Franken made a moral decision mr715 Yesterday #59

Ethics and morals had nothing to do with it. DFW 4 hrs ago #192

He isn't my friend. mr715 2 hrs ago #193

I'll tell you what Quiet Em Yesterday #6

Thanks for the go ahead on this. I'll concentrate on all of them. All in here -- everywhere. KPN Yesterday #8

Fine but stop swinging your hammer at our basket please questionseverything Yesterday #12

Oyah, if we losing Maine, we are definitely winning Ohio. mr715 Yesterday #60

We can bask in our purity or rise up and kick Trump's fat ass. Those are our choices. flashman13 Yesterday #7

We can also bask in our stupidity. Irish_Dem Yesterday #10

Yep. We are doing it really well. LisaL Yesterday #14

I don't think Democrats are stupid. orangecrush Yesterday #64

That's what is so frustrating. Irish_Dem Yesterday #68

yes Skittles Yesterday #99

Skittles from the lectures I am receiving today, integrity is a quaint old fashioned notion. Irish_Dem Yesterday #107

yup, I am a vet, grew up in a military family Skittles Yesterday #121

Now we see how self-defeating all the purity attacks on a Nixie Yesterday #15

Yes. And it's interesting that many of the people mcar Yesterday #56

Exactly! As if we wouldn't notice the switcheroo and amnesia Nixie Yesterday #156

Yeah, I noticed. Cha 18 hrs ago #169

*poof* all the dramatic vote-my-conscience moral purity turns into pragmatism, big tent, think of the majority. betsuni 12 hrs ago #181

Clicks duckworth969 Yesterday #19

When I saw the headlines orangecrush Yesterday #69

So sh*tty behavior now becomes "nothing to see here". 'Cause - 'purity' stopdiggin Yesterday #23

Hardly Red Mountain Yesterday #26

Personally think that the latest round of 'concern' is primarily click bait media stuff stopdiggin Yesterday #67

Totally admit it Red Mountain Yesterday #129

and, in turn - I will not be arguing at all that there isn't occasion when it is appropriate (perhaps imperative?) stopdiggin 21 hrs ago #163

Fair enough Red Mountain 7 hrs ago #184

Accusing Democrats of being bought and paid for ('corporate Dems') is the worst purity test and not true. betsuni Yesterday #25

THANK YOU!! Cha 18 hrs ago #170

As a woman, Platner creeps me out jmbar2 Yesterday #27

That's how I feel. LisaL Yesterday #31

This opposition research comes from Collins main supporter, AIPAC questionseverything Yesterday #36

But do you really think it's all there is? LisaL Yesterday #38

Yes, where are the women? MorbidButterflyTat Yesterday #62

Probably going to vote for Graham Platner. mr715 Yesterday #106

Same go for Bill Clinton? orangecrush Yesterday #76

He was a sleaze, but had a track record and a weak opponent. jmbar2 Yesterday #92

thank you for framing this with such clarity and perspective. needed to be said! - - - - - -(nt)- stopdiggin Yesterday #88

Agreed pinkstarburst Yesterday #130

Anyone concerned about a candidates personal life over their ability to push the party agenda... TheSphinx Yesterday #34

Republicans clearly aren't concerned. LisaL Yesterday #35

Americans as a whole arent concerned either.. TheSphinx Yesterday #45

Yea, well, how is it working out? LisaL Yesterday #52

Trump couldnt care less. But guess what? He WON TheSphinx Yesterday #77

Yes, I am sure Trump is happy he won. LisaL Yesterday #82

The goal of the election is to win the election. mr715 Yesterday #101

I don't vote for candidates in the general election because I like them, I vote for candidates who will push the sop Yesterday #54

there's "personal life" and then there is a misogynistic creep with a nazi tattoo Skittles Yesterday #65

I really hate this attitude. Trump is not "winning" - TBF Yesterday #72

Tom Massie said he's going to identify more individuals whose names were redacted from the Piggy/Epstein files MorbidButterflyTat Yesterday #120

I'm sorry but, you cant take down an enemy if you are unwilling to match or exceed their energy TheSphinx Yesterday #131

That is absolutely not what I said, but nice try Ace TBF Yesterday #132

Yea and the Epstein files are almost completely out of the news cycle right now.. TheSphinx Yesterday #136

"the news cycle" is owned by Trump's billionaire friends TBF Yesterday #138

Welcome to DU sarisataka Yesterday #87

lol TBF Yesterday #133

Considering no one has said what the texts say or who they were actually sent to -- and Im sure Nanjeanne Yesterday #41

Give it time. LisaL Yesterday #42

AIPAC has unleashed millions to defeat platner questionseverything Yesterday #48

Or we could develop better red flag detectors, because they were jumping out at me several months ago. FascismIsDeath Yesterday #43

I don't have a vote in Maine snd not telling those that do how to vote. surfered Yesterday #47

And he is only been married for 3 years, for crying out loud. LisaL Yesterday #51

surely there is some common ground between creep-with-nazi-tattoo and the perfect candidate Skittles Yesterday #49

lol Renew Deal Yesterday #50

For sure, let men be sexual deviants. Boys will be boys. Irish_Dem Yesterday #55

non sequitur orangecrush Yesterday #89

So married men sexting strangers is the same as just having an affair? Irish_Dem Yesterday #100

Strangers? orangecrush Yesterday #105

He was on KIK, online site for teens and tweens. Irish_Dem Yesterday #111

So he was sexting minors? orangecrush Yesterday #119

He used KIK. LisaL 18 hrs ago #171

Please don't quote right wing sources here orangecrush 18 hrs ago #172

You asked for a source. I got you a source. LisaL 18 hrs ago #173

It is against DU terms of service orangecrush 18 hrs ago #174

Here. I am not sure what qualifies as not a right wing source, LisaL 18 hrs ago #175

Some people really want to stick their heads in the ground even when everything is on the line. Exultant Democracy 6 hrs ago #187

Mills dropped out of the race. Unless Emile 4 hrs ago #191

Yes hence the stupid money already pissed away the best chance, but David Costello is a fine backup Exultant Democracy 1 hr ago #204

"I admire your optimism. It's completely unfounded, but I admire it." Emile 56 min ago #205

Exceptions are permitted if you provide a clear reason for doing so that is consistent with the values of this website. Exultant Democracy 18 hrs ago #176

This message was self-deleted by its author orangecrush 18 hrs ago #177

Quoting a right wing think tank to attack a Democratic candidate orangecrush 8 hrs ago #183

Its okay -- purity test for thee not for me. mr715 2 hrs ago #194

Nothing says "class" or "dignity" like a headless mirror selfie MorbidButterflyTat 1 hr ago #203

Post removed Post removed Yesterday #117

And I wonder how much AIPAC oppo research paid that aide orangecrush Yesterday #109

Enough to hoodwink stalwart Democrats on DU mr715 2 hrs ago #195

Being a rape apologist does. niyad 19 hrs ago #167

Message auto-removed Name removed Yesterday #57

Yup orangecrush Yesterday #84

She is concerned that all her support comes from a Democratic message board. mr715 Yesterday #97

Did he have an affair RandySF Yesterday #61

Yeah, how does a guy just start sexting random women? MorbidButterflyTat Yesterday #75

It happens every day in the country RandySF Yesterday #83

Well, first a man and woman say they like each other... mr715 Yesterday #96

So he had affairs with all these women? MorbidButterflyTat Yesterday #123

His wife seems to love him. mr715 Yesterday #125

I wouldn't bet the farm on that. TBF Yesterday #140

Open relationships are a thing. mr715 Yesterday #142

It's Maine, not my state so I'll let the voters decide - TBF Yesterday #144

I don't want to reduce anyone's agency. mr715 Yesterday #146

I pray she is not in an abusive relationship - whether mental or physical TBF Yesterday #152

What if they are only open on one side? LisaL Yesterday #145

Yup it is. mr715 Yesterday #147

Yep, and it's called cheating, as far as I can tell. LisaL Yesterday #149

Yep! mr715 Yesterday #150

Like I said, I am glad I don't have to vote for him. LisaL Yesterday #151

My hunch is that ALL of their shared assets are wrapped up in his campaign jmbar2 Yesterday #154

I wouldn't be surprised - TBF Yesterday #155

Oh please MorbidButterflyTat 21 hrs ago #165

How many in this thread even vote in that state? MineralMan Yesterday #63

He is running for Senate so this affects all of us. LisaL Yesterday #66

And yet, you do not vote there. MineralMan Yesterday #71

Why do we focus on any elections? LisaL Yesterday #73

I can tell you why I focus on elections in Minnesota. MineralMan Yesterday #93

You have a particularly interesting governor to elect. mr715 19 hrs ago #168

Post removed Post removed Yesterday #103

And the primary in Texas (et.al.) was not of national significance? I think stopdiggin Yesterday #113

this is a POLITICAL BOARD Skittles Yesterday #70

Exactly. LisaL Yesterday #74

This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles Yesterday #80

You know what is POLITICAL? MineralMan Yesterday #78

LOL Skittles Yesterday #79

I'm pretty sure you and I Ishoutandscream2 Yesterday #116

If you are only concered about your own state, why use a discussion board LisaL Yesterday #85

Oh, dear! Well, you see, there are also national Politics. MineralMan Yesterday #95

That's who he is Ishoutandscream2 Yesterday #104

This is a different Democratic Party sarisataka Yesterday #81

That about sums it up. LisaL Yesterday #86

... orangecrush Yesterday #91

Did Bill Clinton recount his homophobic jokes sarisataka Yesterday #112

sounds a bit like a, "but Mussolini made the trains run on time .. " type of argument stopdiggin Yesterday #118

Don't forget Blackwater merc and to me, questionable finances EX500rider Yesterday #126

100% Blue Full Moon Yesterday #90

They will. orangecrush Yesterday #94

AIPAC buying an election again. Blue Full Moon Yesterday #110

Spot on. orangecrush Yesterday #115

This is up to the voters in Maine. ShazzieB Yesterday #102

Thread winner orangecrush Yesterday #114

"Platner's "baggage" has been blown way out of proportion" EX500rider Yesterday #127

It wasn't an "SS" tattoo. ShazzieB Yesterday #139

This guy is 41 years old. LisaL Yesterday #143

Yeah, no, it was (and he does not deny it) a SS Totenkopf, no doubt about that EX500rider Yesterday #157

Yes, he found out what it was because people recognized it and told him. ShazzieB 22 hrs ago #162

The tattoo really pesters me LetMyPeopleVote 23 hrs ago #159

No, not "a long time ago." TommyT139 17 hrs ago #178

I don't live there so i dont have a vote or voice there Samael13 Yesterday #108

People talk like they are voting for the person, or not. The reality of how Congress works RockRaven Yesterday #122

This. mr715 Yesterday #128

OK, I will explain w/an example. MAGATS embrace the party - TBF Yesterday #135

or, conversely - do we now endorse the notion that our star football player stopdiggin Yesterday #124

I will let Mainers worry about him. I ain't donating to him. LymphocyteLover Yesterday #134

I know the woman who brought up the sexting. She did GPV Yesterday #137

So far I am impressed by McDonald, if that is who you are referring to. delisen Yesterday #141

Whatever happened to vote blue no matter who Bluestocking Yesterday #153

Good question. I would vote for Costello, other dem in the race. delisen Yesterday #158

This or that gibraltar72 23 hrs ago #160

Support democrats DoBW 21 hrs ago #166

Thanks orangecrush 13 hrs ago #180

Many of Platner's earliest and most fervent supporters are ones that started this purity bullshit. W_HAMILTON 16 hrs ago #179

The original recipe purity test of Medicare for All or you're a corrupt corporate shill who hates universal health care betsuni 11 hrs ago #182

"We can bask in our purity As we sit in places like Delaney Hall, after they round us up." WhiskeyGrinder 7 hrs ago #185

I get Linda Tripp vibes re Genevieve McDonald. Do I give a shit about "sexting"? Not one bit as long as Nanjeanne 6 hrs ago #186

Marmishness mr715 1 hr ago #196

For the record, Genevieve McDonald didn't leak this to rightwingers Quiet Em 1 hr ago #197

For the record there isn't much on the record. No actual texts have been seen so we have zero info Nanjeanne 1 hr ago #198

I have no idea what the WSJ has or doesn't have Quiet Em 1 hr ago #200

No one does. But doesn't stop all the speculation and conjecture. Nanjeanne 1 hr ago #201

Would you say the same thing if it was a GOP'er with an SS tattoo?? WarGamer 5 hrs ago #189

Looks like the GOP better worry about losing the Senate orangecrush 4 hrs ago #190

Nazi tats, has treated women badly and talked about them worse, and was a RW mercenary obamanut2012 1 hr ago #199

Thanks for posting orangecrush 1 hr ago #202